Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/EditorManagerPH/Archive

• MediaManager1 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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There is a determination to get Draft:Francis Baraan IV to become an article. These two are either socks, or meats tag teaming the draft and pushing with reviewers and the AFC Help desk for its creation. Whether the draft is or is not acceptable is irrelevant

Checkuser at your discretion. Looks ducky anyway. I've notified the accounts Fiddle Faddle 08:50, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please see Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk#08:42:45, 18 August 2020 review of draft by MediaManager1. Fiddle Faddle 08:56, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I am inclined to accept the defence presented below and suggest that this be closed as "No case to answer" I would not have opened it had I known these circumstances Fiddle Faddle 10:54, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The user states that they forgot the password to the EditorManagerPH account. 331dot (talk) 08:59, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

331dot, The "I forgot my password" mechanism solves that. Fiddle Faddle 09:31, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It would be nice if it was that simple for everyone, but it is not. They don't seem to have added an email to their account so that would not be available to them. (Assuming they haven't disabled the ability for others to email them). 331dot (talk) 09:43, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'll leave the outcome to wiser heads than mine Fiddle Faddle 09:48, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, you are correct. I was EditorManagerPH before I was MediaManagerPH, because when I signed up as EditorManagerPH, I didn't realize that I would be logged out. I forgot the password I used, because I thought I wouldn't get locked out, and figured I could change it in the future. But when I couldn't get back in because of multiple wrong passwords, I just created a new one. There was no bad intention or malicious reasons behind it. It was simply ignorance on my part. Now, I am logged in for 365 days on Wikipedia, and made sure I remember my password. Hope this clarifies it, and get the Wikipedians to be lenient as I have been very forthcoming about this issue.

Nobody is tag teaming here, or trying to get more users to review via two accounts. I am a paid contributor, and a new one at that. I am still learning the ropes here, and I would appreciate a bit more constructive feedback as opposed to being bombarded with accusations that make it sound like I am here with malicious intent. You are the Old Guard here, and I am looking to you for guidance. You can investigate EditorManagerPH's activity and I can assure you that it has had zero activity since I forgot its password. And I have no intentions of retrieving it anymore since I am perfectly alright with my new account, MediaManagerPH. I have made more than a hundred edits using this account, and I intend to use this permanently in my capacity as a paid contributor, and hopefully, as a reliable, accredited, autoconfirmed administrator, editor, and reviewer of pages.

So, I hope we could put to bed this sockpuppetry issue as I am determined to have Draft:Francis Baraan IV accepted into the Article Space. I have demonstrated notability for my topic, and my topic is just a stub. It can be further improved with more relevant and defensible resources and links that will support any paragraph or description. I am open to suggestions and feedback, and I am willing to change, edit, and respond to any concerns or questions. All I ask is that you consider my position as neophyte contributor, and that you show me leniency in making decisions re: my topic. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MediaManager1 (talk • contribs) 09:54, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Special:CentralAuth/MediaManagerPH says that there is no MediaManagerPH. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:36, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Closing per Timtrent's request. Reported user admits to having two accounts, but no clear violation of editing policy was demonstrated to have occurred. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:40, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• MediaManager1 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki) ( Clerk note: originally filed under this user)
• SignedSealedForevered (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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Significant quacking at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Francis Baraan IV and !vote stacking. Master is a COI editor, may even be the subject of the article under discussion. I'm aware that no action here will link the IP to any named account, so I have not requested CU. I've chosen to notify users Fiddle Faddle 12:47, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dreamy Jazz I'm grateful for the further information. Thank you Fiddle Faddle 19:30, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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• CheckUser requested and endorsed by clerk - Timtrent, checkusers can still check here. They can simply decline to comment on the IP address. Requesting checkuser with respect to the accounts only as this is likely vote fraud. Dreamy Jazz ^{talk to me | my contributions} 19:09, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
•  Clerk note: also see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Professor Henyo -- RoySmith (talk) 19:25, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• To add, they are using two accounts at once if they are connected (with no disclosure of the connection), so this can't be a case of good faith forgetting passwords like previously. Dreamy Jazz ^{talk to me | my contributions} 19:32, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
•  Clerk note: Oh, yeah, Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/EditorManagerPH too. -- RoySmith (talk) 19:40, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
•  Clerk note:  Blocked and tagged, and I'll go pick up EditorManagerPH in a moment. It doesn't get any more obvious than this. When we're all done here, this should get merged into that one, since PH is the older account (by a few hours). -- RoySmith (talk) 19:45, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  Thanks. Agree that this is ducky. A checkuser still probably won't go amiss. Dreamy Jazz ^{talk to me | my contributions} 19:57, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  Dreamy Jazz, I think we're past ducks and into Geese. Maybe swans? But, yeah, it'll be interesting to see if CU finds any additional somnambulant waterfowl. -- RoySmith (talk) 20:27, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• SignedSealedForevered, MediaManager1, and EditorManagerPH are  Confirmed to each other. The other case mentioned above is stale. The IP ranges involved are busy, so it's not easy to find anything in particular unless you know what you're looking for. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 21:53, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
•  Clerk note: Merging into EditorManagerPH -- RoySmith (talk) 22:21, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
•  Clerk note: Retagging as CU-confirmed -- RoySmith (talk) 22:23, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Closing -- RoySmith (talk) 22:28, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• JanitorPH (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)

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Latest promotional account, trying to write an article Francis Baraan. Created in mainspace, since moved to Draft:Francis Baraan. The previous sock's effort was the now deleted Draft:Francis Baraan IV. Note that this was deleted at AFD here, so the new name is probably an attempt to deflect notice of that. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Professor Henyo/Archive for older activity. MrOllie (talk) 20:40, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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•  Blocked and tagged. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 22:22, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• AutodidactReview123 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)

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The master and previous socks had limited their editing to sustained attempts to publish a biography on Francis Baraan under various titles - see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Francis Baraan IV, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Francis Baraan IV, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Francisco Baraan III. In various talk page discussions one of their socks slipped up and revealed that they were Baraan, after repeatedly stating they were not. A new account, AutodidactReview123 has created Draft:Francis Baraan based on a translation from the Filipino Wikipedia. Their global contributions show that they also created a version of it on simple Wikipedia which was deleted after this discussion but that did not stop them recreating it under a different title at simple:Francis_Baraan. The edit history of the article on Filipino Wikipedia was created by an IP so the addressed used may be useful. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 10:56, 5 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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•  In progress - ~TNT (she/they • talk) 23:47, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• I'm afraid all confirmed socks of this master are  Stale for comparison. There are, however, no other accounts visible for this user. ~TNT (she/they • talk) 23:58, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
•  Checkuser note: For future CU reference, this appears to be the end of the data trail for this sockmaster, as all confirmed socks are stale ~TNT (she/they • talk) 23:58, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  Based on xwiki behavior, I believe they're either EditorManagerPH or working on their behalf.  Blocked and tagged. GeneralNotability (talk) 01:37, 8 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]