Wikipedia:Subjective traits documented in reliable sources are still subjective
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 | This page in a nutshell: Subjective traits are frequently documented in reliable sources. This does not make them any less subjective. |
At categories for discussion, there are sometimes discussions that look a little something like this:
Category:Big fooians
- Nominator's rationale: This is a WP:SUBJECTIVECAT. —ObjectivityForAll (talk) 21:41, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:SUBJECTIVECAT. NoSubjectivityPlease (talk) 22:24, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- Keep this is well-defined in these reliable sources: [1][2][3]. ReliableSourcesFan (talk) 22:38, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
ReliableSourcesFan has a very common misconception about WP:SUBJECTIVECAT, which reads:
It does not say:
Subjective descriptions are subjective regardless of how frequently reliable sources describe them that way. Plenty of reliable sources call things "big", "small", "young", "far", "tall", "short", etc., but that does not mean they are objective, defining characteristics.