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The Teahouse is frequently semi-protected, meaning the Teahouse pages cannot be edited by unregistered users (users with IP addresses), as well as accounts that are not confirmed or autoconfirmed (accounts that are at least 4 days old with at least 10 edits on English Wikipedia).

However, you can still get direct assistance on your talk page. Use this link to ask for help; a volunteer will reply to you there shortly. Alternatively, you can contact an experienced editor by visiting your homepage and clicking "Ask your mentor a question about editing".

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Is it possible for a user to silently purge their own log list

Hi all, is it possible that a user with "AP, ECo" could secretly edit their own user log list and delete data that was previously there? Is it possible at all to delete log lists? I believe it is if it's a privacy breach. If so, is it recoverable? NotQualified (talk) 19:57, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No, that is not possible.
Which user are we talking about?
Which log are we talking about?
What is the URL?
What did you expect to see? Polygnotus (talk) 22:40, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's just a general question. But to be clear, is it totally impossible for this to occur? NotQualified (talk) 22:47, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nothing is completely impossible, in the sense that you could have a database corruption that removes entries from a log (but that would not meet the requirement of the user doing it to their own log). Also, a oversighter is able to remove log entries from view, but there are strict rules for that and it is very rare (and I don't think they are allowed to surpress log entries about themselves. For more information, see Wikipedia:Requests for oversight. I believe that oversighters are able to see oversighted stuff. So for example if someone posts someone's home address that can be removed from view. Polygnotus (talk) 22:50, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
In even more extreme and rare scenarios it is theoretically possible that the Wikipedia:Wikimedia Foundation removes stuff from view, see Wikipedia:Office actions and User:WMFOffice (but, again, it is very very unlikely that they use that power to remove log entries about themselves). Polygnotus (talk) 23:01, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

School blocked auth.wikimedia.org and now I cannot log in

Unfortunately, I am no longer able to log into Wikipedia from my school since the new login portal was implemented. Does anyone know if there is a way to bypass auth.wikimedia.org and use the old login page? I would really appreciate it. Thanks! E6400 (talk) 23:38, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to the Teahouse. I recommend asking over at WP:VPT. I doubt that the answer is "yes", but there may be a workaround. Polygnotus (talk) 23:48, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikitable

How can I sort a wikitable from earliest to latest in the filmography section, which is currently ordered from latest to earliest? — ArćRèvtalk 02:57, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Arc Rev, If you are a registered user then you can add a user script to automatically reverse table rows or provide advanced sorting. This is more advanced and for personal use only. If this looks complex to you then you can see further here. Fade258 (talk) 03:05, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Fade258: Could you let me know which userscript to use or which section of the article you're referring to? — ArćRèvtalk 03:16, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Currently, I could not find any user scripts that automatically sort. May be, I will create that scripts soon, otherwise you could go for help link in (click on here) which I mentioned in my previous message. You could see filmography section of Ansha Sayed, may be this helps you. Fade258 (talk) 03:55, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Persian Gulf is refrence name - Adding "Also Known As"

 Courtesy link: Persian Gulf

As stated in the title, this is not about political influence or forced change - it's about geographical accuracy and the historical context behind the name. It's extremely disappointing to see the page admin modify the article to include "Also known as," as if alternative names carry equal weight without proper historical or geographical basis.

If everyone begins renaming places on maps to suit political agendas or personal narratives, the result will be confusion and chaos.

Any naming - like any other claim - must be supported by credible references and historical evidence.

Unfortunately, the admin of the Persian Gulf article has not only locked the page but also restricted access to the talk section. This means the admin can unilaterally impose their own viewpoint without allowing community input or open discussion.

This not only contradicts the spirit of Wikipedia’s core principles, but also undermines the values of collaborative editing, neutrality, and transparency that the platform is meant to uphold.

This is not the Wikipedia I used to support. Mani.zaeim (talk) 10:00, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome! Please read Wikipedia:Lamest edit wars. Thank you, Polygnotus (talk) 10:20, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"the admin of the Persian Gulf article"—There is no such role on Wikipedia. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:45, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
In fairness, it appears that it was the LLM used that thinks there's a page admin... CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 01:27, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Use of Hindi-language books or government PDFs

Hi everyone, I want to improve articles related to Indian herbs and Ayurveda. Sometimes I find really good information in Hindi-language books or government PDFs. Can I use non-English sources if I translate them myself, and will they be accepted as reliable references? Thanks in advance. Cognowriter (talk) 10:03, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome. I am afraid the answer is no. See WP:MEDRS for more information. For new users I would not recommend getting involved in medical-related topics on Wikipedia, because that is probably the second-most difficult topic to get involved in. Did an AI write your userpage? Polygnotus (talk) 10:15, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Cognowriter If you wish to write about topics in Category:Herbs, without making medical/health claims, then you can certainly use non-English sources. See this part of our policy for the details. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:05, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Michael D. Turnbull Check their userpage. Polygnotus (talk) 11:15, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I did, before I replied. It is possible to write about plants without making medical claims and I like to think that respondents at the Teahouse should try to answer the question asked, even if we need to caution about WP:MEDRS-compliant sources, as you did. I see this as an implication of WP:BITE. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:11, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That is not how WP:BITE should be interpreted. Polygnotus (talk) 13:43, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Polygnotus, please explain your interpretation of WP:BITE. It seems to me that Michael D. Turnbull has done an excellent job of encouraging Cognowriter while making them aware of a relevant WP policy. Maproom (talk) 22:05, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Maproom That is, obviously, offtopic. Also you can just click --> WP:BITE <-- there and read it. We should be polite to newcomers (but aren't), but that does not mean that we should tell them that unreliable sources are fine. Indian sources are not reliable in the context ofIndian herbs and Ayurveda. Even if they wouldn't be making medical/health claims, which they explicitly told us they will be, and appears to be their raison d'être judging by their userpage, unreliable sources are still unreliable sources and they cannot be used on Wikipedia. Polygnotus (talk) 22:06, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the clarification, Mike. That helps a lot.
I understand the importance of MEDRS for health claims, and I will stick to improving articles with verifiable, non-medical plant information — especially focusing on structure, common uses, and cultural relevance.
I’ll also make sure to properly translate and cite any non-English sources per WP:NONENG.
Appreciate your support and the guidance! Cognowriter (talk) 13:53, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Font size

At Peter Swales (historian), is it possible to reduce the size of footnote 14 -- I mean the [14] in the text? Maurice Magnus (talk) 13:17, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Maurice Magnus: yes, as I've demonstrated by doing it (though my change doesn't reduce the size of the [14] in the contents list). But this shouldn't be an issue. Links to footnotes should follow the statement that the linked source confirms. But a section header is not a statement, and so doesn't warrant a link to a source. Maproom (talk) 15:50, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
We don't put citations in headings—see WP:CITEFOOT. I've therefore added some text and moved the citation there. Deor (talk) 22:52, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Assess relevance of list article and which lists are desired on Wikipedia

Hi everyone,

I recently started a draft on the list of largest Private Banks (by the industry wide standard indicator of Assets under Management) since i noticed that while there are plenty of lists regarding list of largest banks overall and by country, (measured by total assets or market cap.) there are none addressing largest private banks. Is such a list relevant for Wikipedia and what precautions should be taken when creating/editing a list page heavily reliant on specific quantitative metrics? Orlandov123 (talk) 14:26, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome! Have you read WP:LISTS and WP:NLISTS? Also, "largest" is not very helpful when banks have diverse business models and liabilities and asset values are incredibly difficult to figure out. Polygnotus (talk) 14:32, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Muhammad Sirajo Aliyu

 Courtesy link: Muhammad Sirajo Aliyu

What would one do in this situation? Probably be deleted and merged with Draft:Muhammad Sirajo Aliyu but I'm not sure how to request or go about doing that. Cheers, GoldRomean (talk) 17:34, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

To be clear, was at Wikipedia:Muhammad Sirajo Aliyu before being moved to Muhammad Sirajo Aliyu. This probably needs to be merged to the Draft space, not main space. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:47, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Adam Linder's Wikipedia Page

Hi Tea Drinkers,

I'm writing the article for Adam Linder and it is about to be submitted. I really would like to know if the article is ready because it has already been rejected twice. I really would like to know your opinion about if I'm respecting every writing policies and if there isn't any errors. Someone told me that I had a tense error in the Award section but I can't find it. If there is some little modification to do, I would like to know it before publishing it because revision takes time.

Here is the article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Adam_Linder

Thanks a lot for your help.

Simononwiki1 (talk) 19:23, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A bit off-topic: a simple wikilink Draft:Adam Linder. --CiaPan (talk) 19:47, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"Other works include LOYALTY (2017). . . ." If that's pronounced something like "ell oh why ay ell tee why", fine; but if it's pronounced like "loyalty", then change that to "Other works include Loyalty (2017). . . ." (Ditto for WANT.) And then submit the result. -- Hoary (talk) 22:24, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Hoary, I will change it immediatly. Simononwiki1 (talk) 09:28, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I’m new to this site. What should I do first?

If you are reading this, then I’m new to this site, this wiki. And I wanted to read multiple pages with great information. I am willing to participate in Wikipedia. I created my account lately. I did took a survey, after creating my account. So please to see, what do I need to explore first? What could you bring me into that, so I can be an editor? AmazingWikis4386 (talk) 21:38, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@AmazingWikis4386: Hello and welcome to Wikipedia! Some interesting things you can do on Wikipedia are listed at this task center. Are you interested in any topic in particular? If so, there are also some interesting WikiProjects, which focus on one subject area. Relativity ⚡️ 21:41, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, tasks to solve? AmazingWikis4386 (talk) 21:42, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@AmazingWikis4386 When you said "I wanted to read multiple pages with great information".

Are you talking about the articles in the encyclopedia or "policy and guidelines" ? Anatole-berthe (talk) 21:48, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Articles in the encyclopedia. It’s just the information I enjoy reading. AmazingWikis4386 (talk) 21:52, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Welcome to Wikipedia ! Anatole-berthe (talk) 21:54, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Anatole-berthe What can I do first? AmazingWikis4386 (talk) 22:08, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Have you tried visiting Special:Homepage? I believe it's now enabled by default for new accounts. It will list some suggestions for changes you can make as a new editor, and may also pair you up with a mentor. If you don't see the newcomer homepage linked from the top of your user page, instructions to enable it are here. -- Avocado (talk) 22:53, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Avocado Yes, I visited the homepage and it’s looking fine to me. What is the mentor for? AmazingWikis4386 (talk) 23:43, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The mentor is someone you can ask questions about using and editing Wikipedia. You can also ask questions here at the Teahouse, but the mentor is a specific person who interacts with you repeatedly. They can give you more personalized support and feedback. You have no obligation to ask your mentor instead of the Teahouse when you have questions. But some people find the 1-1 discussion with the mentor more comfortable than asking on a more public forum like this one, and some people find the longer-term relationship valuable. -- Avocado (talk) Avocado (talk) 23:57, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
More personalized support and feedback? That’s cool. AmazingWikis4386 (talk) 00:31, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"More personalized support and feedback? " , I think you have all the necessary to make your path.
This is not necessary to be fast. Anatole-berthe (talk) 00:47, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
On editing suggestions, does these articles or pages change after you edit them? AmazingWikis4386 (talk) 01:19, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. Your edits change the articles. And then after you complete an editing suggestion, you should receive a new suggestion. -- Avocado (talk) 01:46, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Could suggestions include adding new information or fixing typos? AmazingWikis4386 (talk) 01:56, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Avocado Could this suggestion be either difficult or simple? AmazingWikis4386 (talk) 09:48, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
They could be either difficult or simple. And different people find different things difficult vs. simple. Why don't you try a few and find out how they are for you? -- Avocado (talk) 11:47, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I will try and find out. AmazingWikis4386 (talk) 16:09, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think those are sometimes among the suggestions, but I'm not sure. I don't know a ton of detail about what types of suggestions are offered, or how they're chosen. I suggest you just go to Special:Homepage and try a few. Don't be afraid to try. You'll learn more about the tasks by trying them than by asking what they are. Don't worry about getting everything just right -- if you make a mistake, someone will come along and fix it sooner or later. -- Avocado (talk) 11:52, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That’s fine tough. AmazingWikis4386 (talk) 16:10, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Anatole-berthe @Avocado @Relativity And whenever I checked the mentor on my Wikipedia homepage, it shows a specific random user, they suggested me to contact, instead of an administrator. AmazingWikis4386 (talk) 18:54, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. You only need an administrator if you need someone with special permissions to do certain things like delete pages. Your mentor will be a normal (but experienced) editor. As are most of us here at the Teahouse. -- Avocado (talk) 20:34, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
What said @Relativity in the message published in "MAY/11/2025" at "21:41 UTC" isn't sufficient for you ?

There are also the message of @Avocado published in "MAY/11/2025" at "22:53 UTC".

Do you need more ? I think these things are sufficient for the moment.
Step by step. There are not an emmergency. Anatole-berthe (talk) 23:00, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Anatole-berthe Yes, I think I need more. And this is sufficient for me. AmazingWikis4386 (talk) 23:43, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Excellent ! Anatole-berthe (talk) 00:21, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you really much for this. AmazingWikis4386 (talk) 04:07, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, @AmazingWikis4386, and welcome to the Teahouse and to Wikipedia.
One thing I want to warn you of: you may find that when you make an edit, somebody reverts your edit. Please don't get disheartened if this happens. It doesn't mean you are wrong: it means that the other editor disagrees that your edit was an improvement. This might be because they are more experienced in Wikipedia, and understand some policies better than you; or it might be because they know about that subject better than you. But it might be that they don't know the subject as well as you, and other editors would agree that your edit was a good one. Or it might be just that the two of you disagree about how best to say something.
If this happens, please don't just apply your edit again: either choose to let it go, or start a discussion with them and see if you can reach agreement. See WP:BRD for how this works. ColinFine (talk) 10:28, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@ColinFine Thanks for telling me about the reverts, I’m sure on what can be an edit improvement. AmazingWikis4386 (talk) 16:09, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Find a subject you're interested in, and edit there. Different topics have different kinds of small edits that need to be made – for example, articles on invertebrates tend to have old and poor-quality photos, so I've spent some time lately uploading free and better images. What sort of things are you interested in, and what topics do you think you'd like to edit? (These are not necessarily the same. I'm interested in politics but almost never edit there, for example). Cremastra (uc) 23:55, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Cremastra @Avocado I’m interested in wikis, but I’m interested in learning something new and mostly recent events and ancient history, as well as literature in some cases. I don’t edit until I feel like it or I need to. AmazingWikis4386 (talk) 01:36, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Islam in South Asia

Islam in South Asia

Senior please see this page, unknown IP address delete a entire section ex:- History, Demographics. Mr.work-shy (talk) 06:10, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The person should be request a peer view instead deleting more than 60% of the Article Mr.work-shy (talk) 06:11, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have restored the deleted content and reported the IP to AIV- this appears to be an ongoing issue over the past two weeks. Sarsenethe/they•(talk) 07:30, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question of WikiProject

I'm interested in colors, so I joined to Wikipedia:WikiProject Color. What can I do during being project member? The join of a project is first to me. Upset New Bird (talk) 06:23, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Upset New Bird I don't know how active that Project is these days but you could, for example, look at the articles mentioned on WP:WPCOL that are categorised as, say, stubs and try to upgrade them to start or above by adding content. Alternatively, you could ask for suggestions on the related Talk Page for the Project. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:03, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You could introduce yourself on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Color. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:58, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question regarding attribution

Hello! I recently came across the article Home Wanted while clicking around, and I had a question regarding the Plot section. It has a citation to 1919 review, and the text in that section appears to be copied word for word from the source. My question is, is it appropriate to copy that much text from a presumably public domain source in an article and attribute it via in-line citation?

I apologize if this is a silly question, but there are a lot of different policies that I'm still getting a handle on, and I want to make sure I understand them properly. NovaHyperion (talk) 07:22, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's not at all a silly question, NovaHyperion. I haven't read the article or what it "cites" (allegedly plagiarizes), and am responding to your account of it. No, such copying is not appropriate. It's wrong. For a start, such material should be clearly marked as such, whether <blockquote>like this</blockquote> (if long) or "like this" (if not), and of course using ellipses and/or square brackets to show deviations from the original. And after this start, much of what's so identified will probably better lose its new formatting and instead be rewritten, summarized, or perhaps just cut. -- Hoary (talk) 07:55, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your prompt response Hoary. I am aware that copying/plagiarism is frowned upon in general, but I wasn't sure if there were any Wikipedia-specific policies that governed copying text from a source that old with an inline citation.
I have no stake in this article in particular, but I will look into making the changes you suggest. Thanks! NovaHyperion (talk) 23:51, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Well, NovaHyperion, it does seem that there's at least a tacit policy of tolerating copy 'n' paste incorporation of public domain material, without clear identification via either indentation or quotation marks. Category:Wikipedia articles incorporating text from the 1911 Encyclopædia Britannica is vast; inclusion in it is triggered by application of Template:EB1911 or Template:Sect1911. See also WP:Template index/Sources of articles#Public_domain; these templates might inspire you to create something similar (not necessarily a template) for the source recycled here. ....That said, not all that's tolerable is beneficial. -- Hoary (talk) 00:56, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Request comments for my writing to modify

Hello. I am writing about what I study nowadays. I am studying an International standard from ITU-T about cybersecurity in computer science. It is my first writing on Wikipedia, and it was rejected because of its non-neutral tone (the manager said my writing is like advertising).

I want to introduce what I am studying, especially the positive side of technologies, to everyone in the wiki. What should I modify in my writing? Please check my writing about X.1280 and leave any comments for me. URL : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:X.1280. Best regards. Baker232 (talk) 07:27, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Baker232. In an article you want avoid stating personal opinion, so comparing something to alternatives and insinuating that it's better than them is against best practice. It also probably requires more citations, especially in sections when none are present. There's a Wikipedia policy page on neutral point of view writing Wikipedia:Neutral point of view, I want to particularly draw your interest to the due and undue weight, balance, and how to write neutrally sections. It's also important note that you want to try to avoid conflicts of interest, so it's inadvisable to write articles on anything you're directly involved in. Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. Feel free to reach out if you have any other questions or need help. Nixleovel (talk) 07:42, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your comment. I tried to put my opinion because simple summary is not enough to upload.
Before I modify my writing, I need to read two policies of the wiki.
May I ask something about conflict of interest?
If there are some comparisons on standard document, are they available to write on the wiki or not? Baker232 (talk) 07:59, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You'll want to avoid writing them in the introduction, and when you do need to use them, make sure to quote them instead. Quoting makes it clear to all readers that the comparison is that of the party referenced, not Wikipedia. Nixleovel (talk) 08:15, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Baker232, this is the first version, uploaded by you, of Draft:X.1280. As I skimread it, I don't get the impression that it was written by the person who posted the message above: it seems to have been written by somebody else. Any comment on this? -- Hoary (talk) 07:45, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your comment about wrong url. I fixed not to point prev writing.
Please visit this page.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:X.1280. Baker232 (talk) 07:51, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I visited that page, Baker232. No URL is wrong. Do you have any comment on the great difference in prose styles between your writing here and your writing (if it is yours) there? -- Hoary (talk) 07:58, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I forgot sharing the manager's comment. The comment is here.
"This is an advertisement for a particular product standard, not an encyclopedic article that covers information about the project as covered in reliable, independent sources." Baker232 (talk) 08:01, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
We can see that, Baker232. How about answering my question? Simply, it seems from what you write here that English is a second language for you. But it seems that the writer of the draft is using English as a first ("native") language. Why the difference? -- Hoary (talk) 08:15, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As you mentioned, I am not native English speaker. So I use a program to write english correctly and put lots of time to write. The name is Grammarly extention. Why I didn't answer yours is I couldn't understand what you meant. Baker232 (talk) 08:23, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the explanation, Baker232. -- Hoary (talk) 09:01, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don't find it helpful when people describe drafts like this as "like a advertisement". It is nothing like an advert. Quite clearly, if it was already published, it would not be deleted.
That said, it does read like a usage guide, and it would benefit from more about what independent third parties have said, about the standard:— whether or not it is useful and the impact it has had on the industry, for example.
Finally, please note that no-one here is a "Manager"—the article was reviewed by a volunteer who has no more or less authority than any other. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:54, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your comment. I tried to emphasize that he standard can be useful for a specific purpose.
I agree with your opinion, but I need to modify it because it has been rejected.
I use the term "Manager" very often in my office. It would be better to call the guy an "Editor" or a "Reviewer" on wiki. Baker232 (talk) 00:45, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Partner feature for Wikipedia

Hello all! I'm curious whether there are plans in the future to create a partnership feature to facilitate easy collaboration between users across projects, recognizing the existence of groups. It would be helpful to be able to alert other editors I know in a specific field that a certain article needs additions or references, and fast-track the process as opposed to the somewhat random chance of the talk page, which are nonetheless useful for their own purposes, and for community wide discussion. Let me know what you all think, and if anyone knows of similar tools I'm missing by all means let me know.

All my best - CSGinger14 (talk) 07:42, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! We do have some collaboration-related tools, but they are possibly not what you are looking for. We got WP:PING, WP:WIKIPROJECT and WikiProject banners. There are also things like WP:IRC and WP:DISCORD. Polygnotus (talk) 08:14, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hindenburg Disaster Wiki Fix

The video of the newsreel of the Hindenburg disaster keeps having its audio cut out Lordofcallofduty (talk) 10:16, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Lordofcallofduty I've just played the video perfectly well, so I suspect the problem may be your Internet connection. Have you tried downloading the file from Commons and playing it when you are offline? Mike Turnbull (talk) 10:53, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weird I don’t have that as an option is the video that broken that you hear it differently even if I try that audio won’t work Lordofcallofduty (talk) 10:57, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Lordofcallofduty We might not be talking about the same file. I mean File:1937-05-10 Special Release - Zeppelin Explodes Scores Dead.ogv on Commons and I can play that directly from the file page. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:56, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I was asking why the audio was cutting out on the article Lordofcallofduty (talk) 02:05, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Translate Arabic Page to English

Hello, please help me. I'm new here — I've been active for just one week. I have already created a draft translation from Arabic to English for an actor's page. I only translated the content without making any changes. How can I confirm or publish it? Farah244 (talk) 10:17, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Farah244 What's the draft called? Mainly you should read this when translating articles. Remember to give attribution. Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 10:21, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello dear, thank you so much, this is Draft:Fatima Al Safi. translate from ar:فاطمة الصفي. Farah244 (talk) 10:25, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Farah244 Here's a quick overview: Make sure you translate the template for the files in the article and also other template. Also, make sure sentences sound grammatically correct and flow cohesively, and also makes sense. the biography also needs more references to meet the notability guidelines for a biography. Also, remember to give attribution on the talk page. Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 10:40, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much! I truly appreciate your feedback and will work on all your notes. Farah244 (talk) 10:43, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have added AFC tags to the draft. When you are done, just submit it and an editor would review it. Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 10:47, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Farah244 Welcome to the Teahouse. the various language versions of Wikipedia operate independently. So the fact that there is an Arabic article does not mean that there automatically may be an English one. Here on the English Wikipedia we have strict policies on what may be included. In relation to biographies of living people, there are very strict requirements for inline citations to reliable sources for all statements that could be challenged. The draft also needs to show that she is notable in the way we define this for actors. I'm afraid that IMDb is not considered a reliable source, (see WP:IMDB), so at present your draft falls considerably short of what we require. Please read the pages I have linked for more details. Mike Turnbull (talk) 10:46, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Afc question

Hi, looking for opinions on Draft:Wikipedia:Project S.C.R.A.M., whether it should be accepted or declined.--Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 10:20, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's been submitted for review at AfC. A reviewer will deal with it sooner or later. As the header notice on that page currently says:"This may take 3 months or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order. There are 3,185 pending submissions waiting for review." Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:07, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Cactusisme and Pigsonthewing: I don't think you can promote something to the Wikipedia namespace from AfC, which is Articles for Creation. AfC is about promotion to mainspace (the articles). Usually you'd have something like this as an essay in your userspace, and if many people like it it may get moved to the Wikipedia namespace. Polygnotus (talk) 12:18, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Pigsonthewing I am reviewer, I was wondering if such things should be submitted via here. Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 12:32, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Cactusisme: No, they cannot. I think you should just move it to your WP:USERSPACE and then add the appropriate category Category:User essays. And then the redirect should be removed as a cross-namespace redirect. Polygnotus (talk) 12:47, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
 Done Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 12:55, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Got it, thanks for clarifying. What would your advice be for getting people to read the essay I wrote? Gommeh ➡️ Talk to me 12:58, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Usually, people would just check the category I added to the page. Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 12:59, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
People often list their essays on their userpage. You can also make an "advert" for it and stick that on your userpage. Polygnotus (talk) 13:01, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Help with a exceptionally long list

Im writing up a draft for a article about a airshow, (User:Echmo/draftTOMI) and if you scroll down to the shows section and look at 2018, you can see a very, very long list of preforming aircraft that bloats up the screen. Is there a way to use the space on the right so that it can run on both sides? Thanks. Echmo 14:23, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Echmo please see Help:Columns for different ways to set columns - Arjayay (talk) 14:26, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oh that's exactly what I needed, couldn't find it. Thanks mate, I appreciate it. Echmo 14:28, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Watchlist

Maximum articles in watchlist? — ArćRèvtalk 14:43, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

More than you'll need. People have thousands of articles on their watchlist. Polygnotus (talk) 14:51, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"Lea"?

Go to (-90.624, 35.856) at this source and you'll see a road named "Laura Lea" (with no "Rd" or "St" after). What do I call this in an article? I have a street abbreviation paper open, and "Lea" isn't on that list. — EF5 14:56, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Google Maps says the same. "A street called..."? Polygnotus (talk) 15:02, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Polygnotus, that's the thing, I have no idea whether it's a street, road, cove, point, lane etc... what a weird road name. — EF5 15:04, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@EF5 OpenStreetMap to the rescue! https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?query=35%C2%B051%2721.6%22N%2090%C2%B037%2726.4%22W&zoom=12&minlon=-90.8397674560547&minlat=35.61683738705965&maxlon=-90.30075073242189&maxlat=35.86178725699083#map=18/35.855668/-90.624161 Laura Lea Drive. Polygnotus (talk) 15:03, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
See https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?query=Carpenders+Park&zoom=12&minlon=-90.83290100097658&minlat=35.766572101173516&maxlon=-90.40374755859375&maxlat=35.956888171215326#map=17/51.626622/-0.376046 (where my brother used to live) for a district where none of the roads have "Road" or "Drive" or "Street" or "Avenue". ColinFine (talk) 15:55, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That's so weird, here in the U.S. every street has a "Rd" or "Pl" at the end. Thanks @Polygnotus:, I've added the "Drive" per your link. — EF5 15:57, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Google suggests "Laura Lea" is a lot more common that "Laura Lea Drive", and the street sign says Laura Lea St. DuncanHill (talk) 16:11, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
DuncanHill, hm... Drive or Street? I know its a minor issue, but I want it to be verifiable. I'd go with "Drive", but the "Street" is also compelling. Maybe a note? — EF5 19:12, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I mean footnotes are a reasonable suggestion in cases such as this. Polygnotus (talk) 19:25, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Company Article publication stalled

Dear Teahouse members,

Following the suggestion of user Caleb Stanford - i bring this topic here, to see if you can help me unblock this publication.

I believe i have followed all steps, and removed most of the parts from previous edits that would have made the article not follow the WP guidelines (e.g. being more sales-focused or copied products from company site instead of notable and independent references)

Now, when comparing to alternative company profiles like IDquantique , I find similar sections approved, so I would think that the submission should be valid.

Can anyone provide further suggestions or help with this matter please?

Really appreciate your support! :) FrankTWW (talk) 15:31, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

FrankTWW Please see other stuff exists. That another article exists does not necessarily mean it or its content was "approved" by anyone. Standards have changed over time so that what was once acceptable is no longer; also, the draft process has not always existed, and is not required of everyone- so there are many ways inappropriate content can exist. This cannot justify adding more inappropriate content. Though understandable, it is a poor idea to use any random article as a model or example- instead, use those that are considered good articles, which have received community vetting. 331dot (talk) 15:34, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nothing has really changed from what I said in my review. 331dot (talk) 15:36, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note that "IDquantique" has been marked as problematic since 2015, so it definitely is not a good example to go by. 331dot (talk) 15:37, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
FrankTWW has since been blocked pursuant to a UPE queue ticket. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 15:47, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(ec) I have blocked this user based on off wiki information, I have established a COIVRT ticket where I provided the basis for the block. 331dot (talk) 15:49, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:St. Paul’s Bottoms

Why is this page name protected? This is a historically important former African American neighborhood in Shreveport, Louisiana. The area is now known as Ledbetter Heights, which redirect to the album title of a white musician. FloridaArmy (talk) 16:13, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It states;
You do not have permission to edit this page, for the following reason:
The page title that you have attempted to create contains a right single quotation mark (’) Unicode character. Per MOS:STRAIGHT, such characters should not normally be used in page titles. Please replace it with a standard apostrophe, or a modifier letter turned comma (ʻ) or modifier letter apostrophe (ʼ) character if appropriate, and try again. If you got here by clicking on a red link in an article, you should go back and fix the link first. If you have a good reason for creating a page with this title, please let us know at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard. Be sure to specify the exact title of the page you are trying to create or edit, as well as a brief explanation of what you were trying to do. Thank you.

Valorrr (lets chat) 16:15, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
FloridaArmy: Wikipedia disaproves of the use of curly apostrophes "St. Paul’s", and forbids them in article titles. Why not just use a regular apostrophe "St. Paul's"? Maproom (talk) 21:58, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Why does it show sentences that's off topic with "Sovereign states"?

If you hover over sovereign states on List of citizenships refused entry to foreign states, it shows something entirely different. I have a picture but I don't know how to publish it. Hovering says "Millcient is described as or true Innocent... no matter what" RoyalSilver 16:21, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Someone vandalised the page a few hours ago, but it's fixed now! CoconutOctopus talk 16:23, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

How to edit on Wikipedia?

There is a big reason for users to have an account on Wikipedia. But how can we edit pages or timelines without making a literal single mistake on an encyclopedia? Are extensions useful? Thanks if told. Userbase10000 (talk) 17:31, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You don't need to edit without making any mistakes! If you mess up, they can always be fixed. GoldRomean (talk) 17:36, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@GoldRomean @Tarlby What about mass editing pages? Userbase10000 (talk) 17:59, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure what "mass editing pages" mean, could you clarify? True "mass editing" would require bots or tools that you have to get special permission to use. GoldRomean (talk) 18:11, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That defines as making large amount of edits in a short time. Including this user editing pages. Userbase10000 (talk) 18:19, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There's no problem with that. Tarlby (t) (c) 19:10, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Userbase10000, Special:Contributions/Userbase10000 currently tells me that you are: "A user with 17 edits. Account created on 3 May 2025. The 17 include only just three edits, all trivial, to articles. Pace Tarlby, but that's one reason why it seems very likely that there would be problems with mass edits. (A second reason is that your English is hard or even impossible to understand. Example: How could you "making large amount of edits in a short time" not "[include yourself] editing pages"?) Please start by making careful, constructive, and of course reliably sourced edits to a small number of articles. When you've got some experience in doing this successfully, you can of course be more ambitious. Your purpose in editing should not be to draw attention to yourself but instead to improve articles. -- Hoary (talk) 01:18, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Did understand, and I will make reliably sourced edits to articles. Userbase10000 (talk) 01:59, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello @Userbase10000. You are always encouraged to fix any mistake you see. Mistakes can easily be reversed and fixed. Be bold! Tarlby (t) (c) 17:38, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
How can they be fixed? Userbase10000 (talk) 17:58, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The same way they're made- by editing. 331dot (talk) 18:01, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The edit summaries, like fixing mistakes. Userbase10000 (talk) 18:19, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You can make a dummy edit with a different edit summary. Tarlby (t) (c) 19:10, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Is it good or bad etiquette to ask a WikiProject for help in an AfD discussion?

I've been active recently in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion, and I've seen articles which could use the help of knowledgeable editors about the subject. Example: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Solinas prime could use the help of a mathematician.

Is it good or bad etiquette to ask a WikiProject for help?

If it's OK, should I just a section on the project's talk page?

Thank you. Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 19:30, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Itzcuauhtli11 In general, it's perfectly fine to WP:APPNOTE a Wikiproject to an afd, but see that link, your message should be "Your input is welcome" rather than "Please help me save (or get rid of) this article!!!" And yes, just start a new section like you normally would. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:40, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You can check out WP:CANVASS for where the line is and isn't. Like Gråbergs said, a neutral message on a WikiProject is near-universally totally fine. I would go further and suggest that explicitly asking for help finding sources to establish notability for the sake of the discussion is fine; after all, both sides at an AfD discussion are trying to make articles conform to notability standards, so you're helping both sides in finding reliable, independent sources with significant coverage. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 20:54, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Meldman and Discovery Land Company articles

Hello editors! For a while now, I have had open requests on the Michael Meldman pageand Discovery Land Company page articles.

I have tried posting to relevant Wikiprojects, however, I have not received much response. Is there another place where I can go to present this to editors who might find this topic interesting?

Also, I can answer any questions on those articles' talk pages. Thanks for the assistance on how to proceed! AmandaDLC (talk) 21:53, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Where to go to request article assessment

Hi all! I have several articles I've made major improvements to that I'd like to be assessed for a new grade. I wasn't certain where to go about this, but if any admin are here that could post this comment in the right discussion space I'd appreciate it. I doubt any of the articles are up to full standard yet, but I think they've been critically improved to a level that they're deserving of a reassessment at the very least. You can find the articles I've made the most improvements to @ Contributions (Please notify me before removing major edits) with current grades attached on my userpage. All articles with a (**) that are at start grade or below I think are eligible for reassessment. I'm not as certain about any articles that are C or higher. My thanks in advance.

All the best - CSGinger14 (talk) 22:30, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fun fact: you can do this yourself! According to Wikipedia:Content assessment, "[you can change it] if you think a different rating is justified. This only applies if it is not a source of major dispute. PhoenixCaelestis (Talk · Contributions) 23:22, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The WP:Rater gadget may be used to do this. Sarsenethe/they•(talk) 00:35, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NBOOK

Hello, I'd like to make an article for My Schizophrenic Life: The Road to Recovery from Mental Illness by Sandra Yuen MacKay. It's a book. I read WP:NBOOK and it says two or more reliable publications for reviews constitute notability, but that that presumption can be rebutted. I found this and this in terms of reviews. I also found this rather lithe review in Library Journal and this in a dissertation (warning, downloads automatically). Any opinions welcome. Therapyisgood (talk) 23:00, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

All three are from professional sources. So long as you spread out citations and don't plagiarize you should be just fine. Just make sure you back it up with additional background info and citations therein. I may be wrong but none seem sketchy.
- Best CSGinger14 (talk) 23:21, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Also, I might recommend you create a userpage. You can find info on doing so at Wikipedia:User pages. If I can be of assistance, let me know in my talk page. CSGinger14 (talk) 23:25, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Seconding what CSGinger said, since notability is often a contentious topic. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 01:04, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Therapyisgood, NB Thaller's unpublished dissertation is just that: see the warnings about dissertations/theses within Wikipedia:Reliable sources#Scholarship. Also, note that this was submitted to the university's Department of English, not that of psychiatry or similar. So it can be cited, but judiciously. (Have you looked for reviews in newspapers or non-academic magazines?) -- Hoary (talk) 01:37, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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