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Maciej Łagodziński

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Just casual actor and dubber, perfoming mostly in secoundary/episodical roles or dubbing animation characters to fairytales. I don't see any notability guidelines accordinglly to him The Wolak (talk) 08:36, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Jorge Veytia

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The claim to notability for this actor/writer/lawyer is not exactly clear. It seems like the most coverage he has received was in regards to his epilepsy (see this interview). I'm having trouble finding much coverage at all (movie review written by the subject?), and it seems like the article itself was created way back in 2009 by a WP:SPA. JTtheOG (talk) 22:15, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Teresa Lourenco

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Obviously self-published self-biographical promotional. This seriously detracts from the quality of Wikipedia. JustMakeTheAccount (talk) 00:35, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Per nom the article seems to be hyping her up rather then being informative the sources arent very good either Scooby453w (talk) 11:33, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Aaron Calafato

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Draftify as this article still has multiple issues and it has been drafitified 2 times after the creator moved it to main space due to similar issues. Laura240406 (talk) 04:16, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per WP:PROMO. Also appears to be COI. See the list of contributions by the article's originator. -- Ssilvers (talk) 16:04, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – Aaron Calafato’s solo show For Profit laid the foundation for a powerful career in storytelling. That early work—which received coverage from The Chronicle of Higher Education and other independent outlets—not only brought attention to student debt but also elevated his voice as a storyteller. It led to the award-winning podcast 7 Minute Stories and The Lonely Office, Glassdoor’s flagship podcast. His storytelling has only grown in reach, credibility, and cultural relevance—this page reflects a legitimate, verifiable career. Dekayf (talk) 16:34, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
this is your first edit ever and your keep reason is very obviously AI generated Laura240406 (talk) 21:18, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
+1 - every sentence of that !vote is full of giveaways that it's ChatGPT. Vanilla Wizard 💙 22:30, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Adding that the page's main author left a nearly identically phrased comment on the talk page. Even ends with "this page reflects a ...". Unnecessary conclusion statements (especially ones phrased like "this x reflects a y") are a favorite of ChatGPT's. I'm not at the point where I'd find it necessary to open a WP:SPI here because only one of the accounts has !voted, but I think it's fair to say it at least looks suspicious. Vanilla Wizard 💙 22:54, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:PROMO, also not written with WP:NPOV and edited by users with WP:COI. Karl 334 ^Talk-^-Contribs 20:12, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or draftify with delete as first preference. Not sufficiently notable for a WP:BLP page. I would've leaned towards supporting draftifying, but the page history shows that the author refuses to incubate it in draftspace and keeps moving it back to mainspace despite feedback.

As the nom mentions, this used to be a draft, and it had to be moved back to draftspace multiple times. The user who started the draft submitted it for an AfC review, then decided to skip the review process by moving it themselves while it was still under review, then it got moved back to draftspace, then the author submitted it for review again, then bypassed the review process again by moving it back into mainspace a second time while it was pending review.

The nom's contributitons also show this pre-written draft with instructions on how to create a Wikipedia account to publish it, and it contains the sentence"Disclosure: I am submitting this draft on behalf of Aaron Calafato, whom I am assisting with content submission. I am doing my best to follow Wikipedia’s neutrality and sourcing guidelines." Now, I can't claim to know what exactly this is. Is this Aaron Calafato instructing someone to create an account to make an article about him? Is it him or a fan asking an AI to write a page for him & copying and pasting the results? Is it the result of him paying someone to write a page for him? I don't know, and the answer doesn't really matter. In any case, there's WP:COI and WP:PROMO concerns. The multiple newly registered single-purpose accounts popping up to add gushing praise to the article or to leave AI-generated keep !votes are not helping anything either.

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Sabrina Colie

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No sources are suitable. Not notable . BigManBiggerFrog (talk) 18:58, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Fails WP:NACTOR, no reliable sources found online. ‍Relativity ⚡️ 22:37, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per NACTOR. Only significant credit appears to be Destiny (2014 film), but that doesn't have an article yet, so this can't redirect there. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:03, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I don't see reliable, independent sources about Colie or her performances. The film Destiny is not even listed in the Box Office Mojo site. -- Ssilvers (talk) 23:06, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: The article does not meet the notability criteria outlined in WP:NACTOR or WP:GNG. While Sabrina Colie has acting credits in films such as Destiny (2014) and Art Machine (2012), there is a lack of WP:SIGCOV in reliable, independent secondary sources that provide in-depth information about her career. The available references, including a review from Flush the Fashion, offer limited mention and do not establish notability. Unclasp4940 (talk) 02:21, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Abdulrahman Thaher

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The person mentioned in the article is actually its own author! This constitutes a clear conflict of interest. Furthermore, the person presented as a representative is virtually unknown in the Palestinian territories. The article violates all standards. The author is attempting to create an article about himself in various versions of Wikipedia, but he does not meet the notability criteria. — Osama Eid ^(talk) 10:16, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep It may be an autobiographyt but that is actually allowed, as long as it has been submitted to WP:AFC. Easliy passes WP:GNG though could do with some clean up. Theroadislong (talk) 10:25, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep the page can be tagged with a maintenance template regarding COI, but the person is definitely notable, whether or not they wrote it themselves. It's written in a neutral tone, and from the oldest revision, appears to have been translated by the page creator from another wiki, so the content may have actually been written by various other people. Anyway, the subject is notable because of his arrest leading to mass protests (see this report, which is sourced in the article), media pressure leading to a conditional release, and being the director of several noteworthy TV shows. jolielover♥talk 10:27, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete Because it is spam. He also made his article in Indonesian, Nederland, German, Korean and other language Wikipedia so it can be considered as cross-wiki LTA Badak Jawa (talk) 11:11, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Same opinion with ~~Badak Jawa~~ Fazoffic. Singasarská (talk) 11:16, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Autobiographical article, emergency level conflict of interest. Seeing how the author of the article created an article with the same structure and content on many wikis at once, it is strongly suspected that this is an attempt at character promotion (or more accurately, self-promotion). See WP:YOU.
Absolute Strong Keep Per @Theroadislong, an autobiography article, no matter the potential WP:ACTUALCOI or whatever, is okay to make as long as it has many sources (WP:RS), is neatly written, and NPOV. This is also a very useful new knowledge for me. Thank you. ▪︎ Fazoffic _{( ʖ╎ᓵᔑ∷ᔑ)} 11:28, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Isn't the person unquestionably notable? If not for the arrests, surely as an actor/director for several TV shows. jolielover♥talk 11:30, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
WP:AUTO has replied to your comment. This is not encouraged at all on Wikipedia, even if they try to be neutral. Paid contributors are still better than creating articles by hand. ▪︎ Fazoffic _{( ʖ╎ᓵᔑ∷ᔑ)} 11:33, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Jolielover I suggest you read Wikipedia:AUTO#The problem with autobiographies and Wikipedia:AUTO#Creating an article about yourself Badak Jawa (talk) 11:35, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete @Jolielover But making an autobiography on Wikipedia itself is prohibited, even if the subject is worthy. A figure on Wikipedia must be created by someone else, and must not be created by the person himself so that the contents of the article are more reliable and accurate, without any suspicion of adding spices, self promotion, also paid contributor. Serigala Sumatera (talk) 11:38, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
From my inclusionist point of view, I think there ought to be a community revision so as to check and assure the netrality of the article and to add additional information regarding the opposing view of Thaher, to make it more neutral. Because structure-wise, it is pretty decent. Your thoughts, @Jolielover? ANNAFscience (talk) 11:44, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Serigala Sumatera That is absolutely incorrect, creating autobiographies is discouraged but NOT prohibited. Theroadislong (talk) 12:15, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Theroadislong And do you know if the autobiography article has many problems? Have you read Wikipedia:AUTO#Creating an article about Yourself? Badak Jawa (talk) 12:29, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
yes of course I have... and it states " submit a draft to at Articles for Creation (AfC) instead of creating an article directly." which is what happened here. Look [2] Theroadislong (talk) 12:46, 4 May 2025 (UTC) Theroadislong (talk) 12:31, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Theroadislong: So, making an autobiography article on enwiki is okay as long as it is written neutrally, neatly, has many references, and through AfC? Wow, this is very good news. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. ▪︎ Fazoffic _{( ʖ╎ᓵᔑ∷ᔑ)} 12:49, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Well, yes, basically. WP:AUTO saysIf you really think that you can meet the inclusion criteria, and if you are willing to accept that your article must be neutral and non-promotional, then submit a draft to at Articles for Creation (AfC) instead of creating an article directly. AfC provides independent viewpoints that may uncover or discover biases you were unaware of, and shows you value volunteer editors' time. The thing is: this article did go through the AfC process (see here), making any argument for deletion irrelevant since policy explicitly states that autobiographies can be submitted and be approved through this process. jolielover♥talk 13:26, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Jolielover and @Theroadislong Abduddaher globally blocked by EPIC Badak Jawa (talk) 14:03, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Remind

The author of the article has created or edited all versions of other projects, which is generally considered cross-wiki spam.--— Osama Eid ^(talk) 13:23, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed that the user translated this page from an original article in the Arabic Wikipedia, and the original Arabic page that contains most of the information was written and created by someone else about 11 years ago. It is not the same user, so he didn't write that article about himself. It is also noted that the person who is featured in the article is famous and has extensive work and presence on international websites and databases, and his biography is full of notable events, which are supported by many references. He is a candidate to still be on Wikipedia, from my point of view. 85.113.115.249 (talk) 21:12, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Since your title references the Palestinian territories, and given that I suspect you may be the same individual, allow me to clarify a few points regarding this matter.

The same person has previously attempted to contact several editors of the Arabic Wikipedia, requesting that they write about him and later edit his article. He even admitted that some news websites wrote about him after reaching a prior agreement with him.

Furthermore, how can this person be classified as notable or well-known in the Palestinian territories?

He is not recognized in the Palestinian community — this is evident from the extremely low search interest in his name. He also has no followers on social media, nor any noticeable engagement or content presence online.

So how can such a person be considered notable or prominent in the Palestinian territories? — Osama Eid ^(talk) 04:44, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

...because there is established SIGCOV of him? A report and several news articles concerning his arrest, or his TV shows/films? The number of followers he has is irrelevant. jolielover♥talk 05:03, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Osama if the person is NOT notable in English Wikipedia, he isn't so in Arabic Wikipedia. I don't find you nominate the Arabic article for deletion and I think he meets WP:GNG enough, so I lean to Keep it. The issue now is that there is a conflict of interest and I don't think it's a good reason for deletion, since there is a maintaining tags, e. g. {{COI}} and you can rewrite this article according to Wikimedia guides. --Karim talk to me :)..! 20:00, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Abdulrahman Thaher filmography

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The article was authored by the same individual, which creates a conflict of interest. Additionally, this person is not widely recognized or well-known in the Palestinian territories. The article does not fulfill all the necessary criteria. — Osama Eid ^(talk) 09:00, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge Although the director is notable, I don't think his filmography is long enough for a separate page as of yet. I think this should be merged to Abdulrahman Thaher as there are some pieces of media he's been in not mentioned on that page. jolielover♥talk 10:29, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Merge, per jolielover♥.--IndyNotes (talk) 16:44, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Cecil Bevan

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A journeyman actor; fails WP:NACTOR. Clarityfiend (talk) 03:02, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete -- As far as I can tell, all of his roles were bit parts. -- Ssilvers (talk) 04:12, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Did not have any major roles in any films, only minor ones per above. Cactus🌵 ^spiky ^ouch 06:39, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Most roles are uncredited or minor roles, I don't see sourcing we can use. I don't find any. Oaktree b (talk) 14:59, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Serretta Wilson

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Lacks independent SIGCOV. I searched EBSCO database, archive.org, and Google News. —LastJabberwocky (Rrarr) 09:04, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - I've searched several times, and I can't find any reliable sources to support notability. There may be sources offline, but unless they can be located, this article is not viable.--Mojo Hand (talk) 13:27, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Well, she has had quite a few roles, and some people might remember her as Sergeant Wilson's daughter in Dad's Army. PatGallacher (talk) 16:05, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- I have found a couple more sources. PatGallacher (talk) 18:10, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, this Gloucestershire Echo piece is substantial enough. I have added that and another source to the article. More sources do exist. BD2412 T 18:53, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Chandu Salimkumar

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Non-notable actor. Fails WP:NACTOR. Ednabrenze (talk) 05:07, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - Fails WP:NACTOR. Only four films, the first of which is about himself. — Maile (talk) 13:28, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - It's a non-notable actor, who only has Four Films Destinyokhiria (talk) 16:35, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:NACTOR – ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · email · global) 08:34, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. actor may not have an extensive body of work, but he played a prominent role in his debut film Manjummel Boys, as noted in a review Pinkvilla review. According to Mathrubhumi, he also had a main role in the film Painkili. I need to research more before I can say anything for sure.Chanel Dsouza (talk) 06:59, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment this personality may have done notable work but lacks proper news sources to establish work. Improvement could be done on the page.Almandavi (talk) 07:18, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Andrew Hunsicker

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The subject of the article isn't really notable. The first source only mentions his name once as part of a list of people that have been guests. The second source is apparently geoblocked in Germany. The third source only lists him as an actor once you click "see all". The fourth source doesn't even have any identifying information on him, only a list of works that he participated in.

(also see WP:ROTTENTOMATOES for the list of works) Laura240406 (talk) 22:06, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: I also reviewed during New Page Review and see no evidence that he passes WP:GNG or WP:NACTOR. Dclemens1971 (talk) 22:27, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Balvinder Singh Suri

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No significant coverage in secondary reliable sources. Badly sourced. Possible COI. Zuck28 (talk) 19:00, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Erika Monroe

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I'm not finding the kind of coverage of this news anchor and public relations agent, to meet WP:ENTERTAINER, WP:REPORTER or WP:GNG. What I have found are social media posts, IMDb and other user-submitted content, and several articles about her divorce from her husband (who is notable.) It may have been originally created as an autobiography based on the similarity with the editor's user name. Netherzone (talk) 18:03, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete as the subject doesn't meet WP:ENTERTAINER. I also find it suspect that User:Erika Monroe 1 worked on these articles. If they persist after the deletions we should explain WP:N and WP:COI to them. Also, I'm inclined to think the subject doesn't meet WP:PRIMARYTOPIC; if she does, we should redirect to Matt_Williams_(third_baseman)#Personal_life –The Sophocrat (talk) 23:39, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Madi Monroe

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This promotional article on an actress and social media "personality" (influencer) fails WP:GNG and WP:NACTRESS. While it seems that her TikTok is popular, popularity is not a guarantee of notability. A BEFORE search only finds social media posts, IMDb, user submitted content, and fluffy trivial coverage. There may be a COI present (which in itself is not a reason for deletion) as the editor who created it has a user name that is the same as the subject's mother's name (which is mentioned in the article.) That may be purely coincidental, however they also shot the photo used in the article which seems to indicate a connection. It seems to be WP:TOOSOON for this emerging actor. Netherzone (talk) 17:43, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete as per argument above plus the only sources are from user-generated content so almost as bad or worse as citing other Wikipedia pages. Afonso Dimas Martins (talk) 18:49, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete WP:BEFORE search finds no sources on her from generally reliable sources; the few articles on her are hardly enough to establish notability as of now. jolielover♥talk 18:58, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, too soon if this subject is actually prominent in the future. -Samoht27 (talk) 19:43, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I completely agree the subject doesn't meet WP:NACTRESS. The Sophocrat (talk) 23:22, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - per nom. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 15:38, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete It seems like this is a case of WP:TOOSOON. There seems to be a few RSes but a lot of sources being used that do not qualify as RSes. Once there are more sources supporting it, it should be included. Gjb0zWxOb (talk) 16:29, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Raman Kumar

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Lack of Wp:SIGCOV in secondary sources. Zuck28 (talk) 15:59, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - Best I can find is this. And, that is more of him giving his opinion as opposed to a journalist writing about him. There is also a claim on the page that Tara (2013 film) is "considered one of the leading shows in Indian television history" except it has no Wikipedia page and I cannot find a source to support.--CNMall41 (talk) 16:52, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete I can not see any reliable source to meet subject's notability. Film's roles are also not big. Almandavi (talk) 05:28, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 13:03, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This person is not sufficiently notable. The RSes seem to be sparse and it fails WP:SIGCOV Gjb0zWxOb (talk) 16:53, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Akash Singh Rajput

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The subject fails WP:GNG due to a lack of significant coverage in reliable, independent sources. Acting roles are minor—brief appearances in Toilet: Ek Prem Katha, Mirzapur, and Aashram and do not meet WP:NACTOR. The "world record" lacks notability, and relation to a politician is irrelevant. Most sources, like ANI press releases and Nai Dunia, are unreliable or do not mention the subject. The article also shows WP:COI issues and feels like WP:TOOSOON.

The article's credibility is further undermined by the page creator uploading an image with false copyright claims, which was deleted twice for violations despite being claimed as their own work. Zuck28 (talk) 15:33, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Page meets the both criteria.𝒮-𝒜𝓊𝓇𝒶 16:35, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Subject's acting roles are minor and insignificant.
The claimed "world record" for a book is not a notable award, and being the son of a politician does not confer notability, as it is not inherited per Wikipedia standards.
The article relies heavily on unreliable or inadequate sources:
- Source #2 (ANI press release) is self-published.
- Source #3 (Nai Dunia) is non-reliable.
- Source #5 is a forum, not a credible source.
- Source #7 is non-reliable.
- Source #8 does not mention the subject.
- Source #9 is a duplicate.
- Source #10 and Source #11 do not mention the subject.
Most remaining sources fall under WP:NEWSORGINDIA, which typically lack the depth required for significant coverage.
Zuck28 (talk) 18:48, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Dear, Significant sources are available.𝒮-𝒜𝓊𝓇𝒶 02:02, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This page meet the criteria under both WP:GNG and the WP:NACTOR. The article is supported by many significant coverage.
Delete As per nominator, subject does not meet WP:GNG. Filmibeat, Naidunia, IndiaForums, OneIndia, MPBreaking are not reliable. Almandavi (talk) 05:27, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think you need to be more careful when editing Wikipedia. It’s unacceptable that you fail to recognize one of the top media portals like OneIndia. Your edits seem really suspicious to me. 𝒮-𝒜𝓊𝓇𝒶 08:21, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
OneIndia is listed as unreliable here per WP:ICTFSOURCES Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 12:30, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Understood! kindly review more listed sources, as there are many reliable available including TOI, NDTV, and The Print etc. Additionally, his father Govind Singh Rajput is also a Cabinet Minister. 𝒮-𝒜𝓊𝓇𝒶 18:52, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@S-Aura Being someone's son doesn't makes the personality notable for wikipedia. Almandavi (talk) 07:14, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Almandavi, The context was different. I hope you will understand as you start editing. 𝒮-𝒜𝓊𝓇𝒶 08:03, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks @Miminity for clearing it. @S-Aura Better to research and fix rather than pointing other editors. Almandavi (talk) 07:13, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Almandavi, Thanks for your advice! 𝒮-𝒜𝓊𝓇𝒶 08:04, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Teng Lin

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This fails WP:NACTOR. All sources are none WP:RS Ednabrenze (talk) 07:30, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

i've add links to biographical data, the sources can only be found in his own social media livestream as short drama actors info are in general lacking online. I've included the link and even the timestamp at which he mentioned those biographical data Laiwingnang (talk) 10:07, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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also want to mention such info are usually hard to come by because short drama actors are not signed to any publicist or angecies..so they don't have staff to register them with movie databases, fans have to get that info from their livestreams, from social media, but fact is short vertical dramas are highly popular in china with hundreds of millions views/social media engagement and are now being seen by millions on youtube/tiktok internationally through many drama apps, they are more relevant than many mainstream actors from china. Laiwingnang (talk) 13:19, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

added a reference for his short dramas, they are listed in a WeChat application named WeTrue. It's a market data research company used by short drama industry insiders...but it is a built in app inside china's wechat and requires a wechat app installation to access the data. A link to their www feed page is added, any link on that page will give you a link to the wetrue application, upon clicking the application link will launch the data application on wechat. Laiwingnang (talk) 10:11, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Has he been profiled in any reliable sources such as newspapers or magazines? Cunard (talk) 23:23, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per the lack of significant coverage in reliable sources. I did not find significant coverage in my searches for sources. I found a passing mention here and a self-published source here. Teng Lin (Chinese: 滕林) does not meet Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Basic criteria. Cunard (talk) 23:23, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
the industry used wechat app wetrue is a more reliable source than the ones you mentioned, it's the imdb for chinese short dramas. What you referenced are mainstream news outlet paid to write articles for agencies to hype up their stars. It's pay per play. Fact is Teng Lin is at 200k followers on china's douyin with an total of over 3 million likes and many chart topping popular short drama just in the last 12 months, many of the c-list musicians, actors who doesn't have a hit with next to no followers get to have a wikipage because their agency pumps articles about them and register them with all types of websites. China isn't America, they are not stuck in the www page age, apps like weTrue or dataeye are used by millions of drama fans and industry insiders for chart data and new releases. They are more reliable sources even if they aren't through http. They don't rely on www page that probably gets like 50 clicks. That's really an American thing. Laiwingnang (talk) 09:40, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
also want to mention, his short film trailers have millions of views on tiktok...he's not only relevant within, china, but also internationally. His recent dramas are getting subbed by kalostv, reelflicks, flicksreel and other drama apps and many are amongst the most watched short dramas internationally. Alot of activities are happening on apps , www news site gatekeeping pay per play is 2010s. Laiwingnang (talk) 09:59, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
spotify is on app, social media is on apps, netflix in on apps, in 2025, most of what the public consume is on apps, so should short drama apps like wetrue or dataeye be considered as legit sources as well Laiwingnang (talk) 10:04, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
https://www.52hrtt.com/ey/n/w/info/G1732591212530
if you want a www article, here's one...the first short drama awards and Teng Lin won one of the 3 actor awards. He's one of the top short drama actors , doesn't make him less relevant just because he doesn't have an agency to pay for written articles Laiwingnang (talk) 11:22, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dawn Logsdon

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Fails WP:BIO, WP:SIGCOV. Not a single secondary source. All passing mentions. scope_creep^Talk 09:49, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Widespread coverage of films she has directed and edited. Article just must be expanded. Thriley (talk) 19:06, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Thriley: I saw you working on to expand it, which is laudable. Do you have secondary coverage? It lot of seems to surface and no depth. WP:THREE will do. scope_creep^Talk 19:32, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think she meets notability per WP:AUTHOR: "The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work." The documentary films she has directed have received widespread coverage. I have not done a deep search for articles solely about Logsdon, but I think the coverage on her works makes that unnecessary for notability concerns. Thriley (talk) 19:53, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Thriley: The subject isnt an author as far as I can seen. She is a creative type. I need WP:THREE secondary sources that prove she is notable. Not passing mentions or interview or PR. scope_creep^Talk 18:42, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep It seems maintainable, but some parts of it require (more) sources. 110 and 135 (talk) 16:28, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Lily Alexandre

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Some videos of her have been added to "best video essays" list articles:

Otherwise I find passing mentions. Considering these articles don't cover Alexandre herself in much detail, I believe it would be best to either delete the article or else merge it into Nebula (streaming service) ―Howard • 🌽³³ 08:57, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Enough independent coverage to meet WP:GNG. --NoonIcarus (talk) 13:49, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The Link is a passing mention, Prospect is a passing mention, BFI is 2 sentences in a list of 181 videos, the Xtra article is written by Alexandre herself. Hyperallergic and The American Conservative appear to be the most in-depth sources available, and neither one goes into much detail. hinnk (talk) 20:14, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 12:41, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per GNG - there's no allegation of notability. Bearian (talk) 08:54, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I dont see anything except an Internet Poll that she came in the top results. --hroest 18:53, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Peter Gibson (writer)

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Struggled to find any significant coverage of this guy in reliable sources. The 2004 Variety article is an announcement, and the 2003 one is a mere mention. No relevant hits in ProQuest, either. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 17:36, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete probably. I've struggled to find anything about him at all, besides the two Variety announcements that are already in the article. Trying to check if he might have had significant roles in multiple notable productions, I couldn't find reviews of Free or American Intellectuals, so I'm not sure how notable they are (the only source in their articles is IMDB). I'm confused about Kill Your Darlings (2006 film) - it's by Swedish writers called Björne Larson and Johan Sandström, but there's also a book of the same name by Terence Blacker which has a major character called Peter Gibson [4]. That's probably just a coincidence - but anyway, the IMDB entry for Kill Your Darlings (2006 film) shows that a Peter Gibson is listed in the 'Thanks' section, which doesn't count as a significant role for WP purposes. RebeccaGreen (talk) 04:49, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reuben Liversidge

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No significant coverage found in reliable sources. Does not meet WP:BASIC, let alone WP:GNG. The TV show he was on, Round the Twist is notable, but his role in it for two seasons is not. Checked Google and ProQuest which yielded 4 hits (cast lists and passing mentions, plus "contributes a wicked March Hare and terrific Humpty Dumpty" in a 2009 review in The Age). Cielquiparle (talk) 05:46, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Considered redirecting to Round the Twist but that article does not mention the actor or his role. Cielquiparle (talk) 06:31, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It does mention his role, Anthony, in Round the Twist#Characters#Other. That section doesn't name any actors, though - but maybe more characters and actors could be added to the Round the Twist#Casting table. RebeccaGreen (talk) 07:04, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Shannon Durig

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Doesn't seem to have enough sources with SIGCOV. I found this with sparse coverage, this with moderate coverage, and this. LastJabberwocky (talk) 09:31, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment, there is a ton of coverage in the Kansas City Star, see [5], [6], [7]. I think that's one element of an ideal three to establish GNG. Will see if I can find dig up more. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 13:22, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The New York Daily News also published a two page spread upon her 1,000th performance. I'm still probably at a Weak delete, but maybe someone else will find a bit more coverage. Maybve there is a world where this could be redirected to the musical's article, but her name isn't really there in any substantial way right now. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 13:37, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - Identified coverage meets WP:N policy requirements - significant coverage in multiple (two) reliable sources. ~Kvng (talk) 00:16, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The NYDN is an interview, so we really only have one independent, reliable source so far, imv. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 06:30, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This article lacks sufficient sources, on the other hand, it needs to expand the mentioned page as well.110 and 135 (talk) 06:22, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Zaur Hasanov

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The person is not a notable. Yousiphh (talk) 12:21, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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comment This can't be the same person? So maybe not the most notable person under his name. Most of the sources I see are Azerbaijiani or Russian Czarking0 (talk) 15:06, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Not the same person. Yousiphh (talk) 10:33, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Mohsen Afshani

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This is a procedural nomination. I declined the speedy tag this am, since the (dated) sources all date newer than the previous AfD (inappropriately closed as speedy delete by a non-admin closer). This latest incarnation is entirely sourced from Farsi outlets, so even with translation, I'm not comfortable with my own views on how direct the detailing is or how much is merely routine entertainment chatter. BusterD (talk) 14:11, 20 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Sahar Hashmi

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Back at AfD after the first resulted in speedy deletion. Back in the mainspace and while I attempted to clean up (even moved to draft to allow for cleanup but that was objected to) but there is nothing useful to create the page. For NACTOR, a person is not inherently notable for two lead roles - they still need the significant coverage showing such. Here, the references are unreliable, some based on the publication and the rest based on being non-bylined churnalism. CNMall41 (talk) 00:41, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: 2 lead (ergo significant) roles in notable series, Zulm and Mann Mast Malang, thus meeting WP:NACTOR that states that actors "may be considered notable if" they had significant roles in notable productions. To pass WP:NACTOR, coverage is only needed to verify the importance of the roles in the notable productions. No notability guideline warrants "inherent notability" on WP: all of them, including WP:GNG mention a "presumption" of notability of some sort (presumed/may/likely, etc). See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ali Raza (actor), an AfD that I link here not for its outcome nor potential disagreements between given users but because it contains an extensive discussion about WP:NACTOR and WP:SNGs in general. In a nutshell: stating that subjects meeting any of the specific notability guidelines about notability "must first" (or "should also") meet GNG is an erroneous (albeit common) interpretation of what the guideline says. Meeting given specific requirements for notability can be considered sufficient, per consensus; that is why such guidelines exist; when the requirements of the applicable guideline are met, it can be agreed upon that the article may be retained. By the same token, those who don’t agree are obviously free to express their views but meeting specific requirements can be considered a good and sufficient reason to retain any page; in other words, in such cases, subjects don't need to also meet the general requirements. Even meeting them does not guarantee "inherently" an article, anyway.-Mushy Yank. 01:18, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Few things. The first is that although the AfD you linked here shows your contention that NACTOR is met with two main/lead roles, it also shows a divide amongst editors on how to interpret that. Note it closed as No Consensus with the closing admin noting that editors were divided in the assessment of NACTOR. However, the AfDs here and here where you asserted the same resulted in delete. While this does not establish consensus, it does show that editors do not share the same assessment. Note, I am not saying she must meet WP:GNG. I am saying she meets neither. Second, NACTOR is not met with two roles with "coverage is only needed to verify the importance of the roles in the notable productions." In fact, it says "meeting one or more does not guarantee that a subject should be included." Here, the sources are junk. They are non-bylined coverage similar to WP:NEWSORGINDIA, churnalism, websites like Celebrity Networth, or are otherwise unreliable. If someone is worthy of notice, you would think they would have more than this type of simple coverage. It would be more significant where they would meet WP:NBASIC. Finally, one of the shows you claim is a notable series, you actually redirected based on notability. You only reverted in March of 2025 to help support your contention in the first AfD. Both shows I think are marginally notable at best as they also contain the same type of unreliable sourcing, although I will not nominate either during this AfD so as not to give the appearance of WP:DISRUPTIVE. --CNMall41 (talk) 05:37, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I already replied to all this in the other AfD I linked precisely for that purpose, and in the precedent discussion about this actress. See there. -Mushy Yank. 07:53, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: I see a pass of WP:NACTOR per Mushy Yank. Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:07, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: I see the passes of WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG. 2 Lead and significant roles in notable television shows (Mann Mast Malang and Zulm). Misopatam (talk | contribs) 06:14, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to Wikipedia. Can you point out the coverage which is still required since WP:NACTOR is not a guideline for inherent notability?--CNMall41 (talk) 20:00, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Tony T. Roberts

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Longstanding unsourced BLP. Cabayi (talk) 17:30, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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:Delete: This Article does not meets it's notability for mainspace and does not maintain reliable sources. Also it's has now 2nd nomination for Wikipedia:Article for deletion, therefore it should be deleted. Thanks KayVegas (talk) 18:43, 18 April 2025 (UTC) strike sock-- Ponyo^{bons mots} 20:25, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete this is my first time in a discussion like this so I'm not too sure how this all works but I concur with deleting this article there are only 2 sources one of which is the subjects own website which isn't reliable and a idmb page which just lists credits. speaking of which the credits themselves don't confer notability either as they appear to be mostly minor roles. Scooby453w (talk) 18:34, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

on a side note I looked at the previous afd which resulted in keep however it seems to have been solely based on the fact that he had an idmb page which I disagree with as I stated above Scooby453w (talk) 19:11, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That was 2007...

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Well yeah that is my point perhaps a simple idmb bio was enough for an article back then but it seems the standards have been raised. Im not too familiar with the procces of what should and shouldn't be kept but it seems to me that articles with poor sourcing tend to get deleted Scooby453w (talk) 13:35, 20 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Mr. Box Office#Main Cast: but if existing sources seem OK for GNG, not fiercely opposed to Keep (a lot of coverage like https://www.dailynews.com/arts-and-entertainment/20140723/tony-roberts-brings-an-army-of-jokes-to-the-forum-for-komedy-xxplosion/ or https://www.royalgazette.com/other/lifestyle/article/20150402/comedians-will-have-you-in-stitches/ exists). (Does not seem to pass WP:NACTOR as the other roles are minor or in not clearly notable productions) -Mushy Yank. 21:26, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
i could get behind a redirect Scooby453w (talk) 21:44, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - unsourced WP:BLP. I'm ok with a redirect, but only conditional on finding at least one reliable source. Bearian (talk) 05:44, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Here you are: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/bill-bellamy-jon-lovitz-vivica-fox-sitcom-keshia-knight-pulliam-gary-busey-byron-allen-321177/; https://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/mr-box-office/cast/1000570817/ -Mushy Yank. 22:17, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I think there's enough for WP:GNG - there's a full page article about him from 2014 in The Arizona Republic [8], and a good para from 2023 in The News Journal (Delaware) [9], and the LA Daily News article that Mushy Yank found does have biographical info in it, as well as bits of interview. Given that he's a stand-up comedian, redirecting to one show seems rather limiting. RebeccaGreen (talk) 14:44, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per these sources ꧁Zanahary꧂ 14:17, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per the above votes; the sources provided above have convinced my to believe that the person is notable. ToadetteEdit (talk) 19:52, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Kaye Tuckerman

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Non-notable. AI generated and at least some refs are fake. Polygnotus (talk) 17:56, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete and can we just find some way to speedy these. Btw Polygnotus thanks for the heads up re. ANI, although the guy was blocked by the time I got there :) Fortuna, Imperatrix Mundi 18:09, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect - Fails WP:GNG and doesn't meet WP:NACTOR as there is only one notable role with some reviews. Redirect to Mamma Mia! (musical)#productions. --CNMall41 (talk) 20:22, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep There is a lot of coverage in digitised newspapers about her from her time in Mamma Mia from 2010-2012, certainly enough to meet WP:GNG. She probably also meets WP:NACTOR / WP:CREATIVE with her other performances and her nomination for the Africa Movie Academy Awards for design work on From a Whisper. I'll add sources to the article (and check out the existing ones). No, please let's not Speedy Delete articles like this - there is clear indication of notability in the text of this article; the refs could be improved, but that's the case with lots of WP articles, and is not a reason to delete. RebeccaGreen (talk) 12:48, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@RebeccaGreen Are you basing your !vote on the fake information in the article? I looked at your contributions and the last 7 edits are keep votes for AfDs? It looks like you believe that the article is fine but the refs need to be improved, but in reality the refs are fake and fail verification. She clearly does not meet WP:GNG or WP:CREATIVE. You could quibble about WP:NACTOR, but only because those standards are so much lower which is unfair and should be fixed. In any case, per WP:CONLEVEL such an WP:SNG cannot overrule WP:GNG. Polygnotus (talk) 19:39, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No, I'm basing my Keep !vote on what I can see in digitised newspapers (which are also available to WP editors through the Wikipedia Library). If you have looked at my contributions, you will have seen that I put a kot of time and effort into improving articles at AfD, and as I said, I will add sources to this article. RebeccaGreen (talk) 23:00, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Extended WP:OFFTOPIC back and forth

@RebeccaGreen Hm, OK, it was just a bit weird to see 7 keep !votes in a row. I think I am more deletionist than you are. With BLPs I am always extra careful because a bad BLP can be far more harmful than a bad article about a Pokemon. I checked the Wikipedia Library (9 results for their name between doublequotes) and I don't see any sources that can be used (a name in a list is not WP:INDEPTH). Do you have access to the source I mentioned on the talkpage? Polygnotus (talk) 23:08, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
7 Keep !votes at 20-40 minute intervals - during which I searched for sources. I don't just !vote without checking, and if I don't find much or anything in theway of sources,I !vote delete, redirect or merge. RebeccaGreen (talk) 23:15, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@RebeccaGreen You are at 71.2% keep and I am at 87.0% delete Probably because we use AfD for different purposes; I use it to get rid of the trash while you perhaps use it to find things worth saving. Both are valid. Polygnotus (talk) 23:19, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Polygnotus:, I don't think attempting to discredit someone's vote based on anything OTHER than the merit of their contention is appropriate. Their keep/delete ration or how fast they voted does not discount their !vote.--CNMall41 (talk) 01:14, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@CNMall41 Agreed, and I didn't. As I said, I just happened to notice it and it was remarkable enough to remark upon. In the future, please be more careful before writing something like that, because implying that someone did something they clearly did not is not appropriate, especially in the context of potential false allegations of bad intentions without evidence. Polygnotus (talk) 01:20, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I am very careful and I wrote exactly what I meant. While veiled, you asking if they based their vote on fake information was insinuating they lacked competence. You then proceeded to discuss their voting history instead of their contention. I do not agree with the !keep vote, but they are allowed to have it. You are free to address their contention, but saying things like "it's just weird" then sharing someone's AfD stats is about conduct, not content. If you have issue with my comment, please address at WP:ANI. --CNMall41 (talk) 01:30, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have to run to ANI every time someone makes a mistake. ANI is forurgent incidents or chronic, intractable behavioral problems. You just made a mistake. I can just point it out and move on. Polygnotus (talk) 01:31, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No mistake was made. I stand behind what I said 100%. --CNMall41 (talk) 01:33, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That is allowed. I can explain something but I cannot understand it for you. Polygnotus (talk) 01:33, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The article was rewritten but many of the sources used do not support the claims made in the article. Polygnotus (talk) 05:17, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I have edited the article, adding sources and info. I clipped the sources from Newspapers.com, so I hope they will be visible to editors who don't have a subscription. RebeccaGreen (talk) 12:36, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. In a 3-decade career, this person has done one national tour, one ensemble role on Broadway, and a few short-running local productions, mostly in smaller parts. Her film career is even less impressive (being nominated for one local design award for a foreign art film does not make someone notable as a designer). Even though she got some press over the decades in local newspapers, she is a pretty WP:MILL actor. -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:51, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, she also played named roles in Summer: The Donna Summer Musical on Broadway, as well as playing roles in several other musicals around Australia and in Shanghai, and in cabaret in New York and Miami. I don't think a major role in a two-year tour of Mamma Mia! (musical) in the US and Canada is run-of-the-mill - it is in fact criterion 4 of WP:MUSICBIO. RebeccaGreen (talk) 12:22, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Salman Shaikh (actor)

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The sources cover the person in brief and in a passing manner or using his citations primarily. No significant independent and multiple sources per GNG or ANYBIO. Cinder painter (talk) 11:04, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Repost of deleted and salted material: Salman Shaikh/Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Salman Shaikh. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 17:01, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Pppery the nomination you mentioned was about 4 years ago and the subject of the article has from then, received significant roles in television and movies and also has received good amount of coverage from TOI and more sources. The title was salted because apart from this subject there were several more subjects with the same name trying to create articles on this title page. Knowledgedghoul (talk) 18:25, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The subject has several lead roles in television and films, supporting roles and decent coverage. If you consider that there are tons of pages on Wikipedia which are kept having lesser coverage and work credits. Knowledgedghoul (talk) 10:10, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep: meets WP: NACTOR- various significant roles (recurring/supporting) in notable productions. -Mushy Yank. 19:37, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and move to Salman Shaikh: meets WP: NACTOR with multiple significant roles in various notable shows. The actor has played several parallel and negative lead roles in various shows and currently playing the parallel lead in Pocket Mein Aasman.--Iamaninnocentsoul (talk) 05:21, 20 April 2025 (UTC) Blocked sock. DoubleGrazing (talk) 15:35, 20 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep passes WP:NACTOR. Pizza on Pineapple ^{(Let's eat🍕)} 20:00, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Lacks WP:SIGCOV, most of the reference cited were from unreliable sources per WP:ICTFSOURCES. Needs more depth and coverage Imsaneikigai (talk) 07:12, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Imsaneikigai "Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material." [10], [11],[12], [13],[14] as per some of these mentioned sources in the article, you can clearly check that these are clearly not "Trivial mentions" but topic of the source material, as these are not just mentioning the subject but talking about it. So even after your cleanup of unreliable sources, there is clear Significant Coverage of the subject as per the guidelines. Knowledgedghoul (talk) 08:53, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: I can see enough references from significant coverage, The subject has roles in multiple featured films and Television series meets WP:ACTOR. B-Factor (talk) 17:36, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Smruthi K

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Fails Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Basic criteria:

If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability.

Anybody who checks the first two links, they are YouTube interviews from sources that are listed unreliable at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Film/Indian_cinema_task_force#Guidelines_on_sources (both Indiaglitz and Behindwoods). The third source is a just a short film link.

Also, she is very low-key, dubbing for films in not the original language such as K.G.F 2 (non Kannada/Hindi version) and Petta (non Tamil version). She only seems to dub in Tamil original versions for Raashii Khanna.

A quick WP:BEFORE yields nothing. DareshMohan (talk) 01:04, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - per nom. The subject of this article is not notable, so it doesn't seem like this article can be improved in any way.

WormEater13 (talk • contribs) 02:14, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Voice actors can certainly be notable per WP:NACTOR if they have had "significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions". She has voiced lead roles for many notable films, in a variety of languages. The main issue seems to me to be finding reliable sources to verify that she has voiced those roles. The sources currently in the article are not reliable or independent. I'll see what I can find. RebeccaGreen (talk) 14:11, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@RebeccaGreen, any luck? -- asilvering (talk) 02:56, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I've been working on other articles at AfD. I did find some sources - I'll get back to adding them and looking for more. RebeccaGreen (talk) 07:39, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If reliable sources are found here then we can keep the article, but otherwise delete. Easternsahara (talk) 23:46, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - Per WP:GNG and WP:BIO, as BLP's have strict sources...and the sources inside of the article are not strong enough. My googling found Imdb sources/film credits, possibly failing WP:NEXIST as well. Editz2341231 (talk) 21:29, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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