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Merlin Environmental Solutions (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This fails WP:NCORP. Majority of the sources are not about the company but about people related to it. And there are also much primary sources in the article. Ednabrenze (talk) 07:04, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tanya Alderete (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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In my WP:BEFORE, I found only one reliable independent source with significant coverage of the subject to count towards WP:BIO [1], which I added to the article. The other two sources cited in the article are not independent. I checked WP:NPROF and I think the only criteria that might apply is #1, for citations. Her Google Scholar profile [2] gives an h-index of around 30, which I suggest is borderline; I do note that the article had explicitly been undraftified with this comment

respectable h-index, may meet WP:NPROF. I submit that it doesn't, and therefore than an article now is too soon. As an alternative to deletion, I would be happy for the article to be draftified again for future expansion and resubmisssion when notability is clearer. SunloungerFrog (talk) 08:08, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete I would argue the one article the nom cites as potentially meeting WP:BIO is not in-depth enough count towards significance --- it's largely interview responses. From a public health perspective, the potential link between pollution and allergies/asthma/diabetes was established well before Aderelte's career began (e.g. [3]), so much of her research isn't groundbreaking in the field. I wouldn't even draftify this as academics usually take a while to become notable and it's likely to languish there for years. If Alderete becomes notable in the future someone can rewrite based on newer and better information. Anonrfjwhuikdzz (talk) 12:02, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Anonrfjwhuikdzz if she passes WP:NPROF then she does not need to pass WP:BIO as well. Based on her GS profile and similar cases in the past, she probably passes the bar for NPROF. --hroest 15:25, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I understand that, and I admit I am also generally skeptical of WP:NPROF as setting too low a bar for notability among academics. I'm not a fan of h-index or other citation metrics for establishing notability since I think such metrics skew incentives for scientific investigation. Raw citation counts are also difficult to use since some fields can be much more citation-happy than others.

I took a brief look at three of Alderete's publications based on the weak keep votes, and I'm not impressed by the quality of the science in two so I am still sticking with my delete vote (the third was too specialized for me to understand well enough).

As an aside, the first paper I have concerns with are [4] which throws out measured infant masses in the methods section instead of using averages/standard deviations. I'd expect to get fired if I used such a method. Including standard deviations in mass would likely make the correlations appear much weaker than stated in the paper. The second is this one which does not include income as a potential confounding factor (incomes are generally lower near sources of pollution, and lower incomes mean healthier foods can be unaffordable, so could that be a more reasonable explanation for the observed correlation?). Anonrfjwhuikdzz (talk) 23:47, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • weak Keep this person (just) passes WP:NPROF#1 with an h-index of 33 and 13 of her publications cited 100+ times. This indicates an impact in her academic field as per guidelines. --hroest 15:25, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Keep and repair. There were some very strange statements such as her currently being a postdoctoral scholar (at the same time as an associate professor), I removed that one as I don't believe it. Her h-index is borderline, as others have said, but her citation trend is very strongly increasing so I am OK to give her the benefit of the doubt. Someone badly needs to repair the page. Ldm1954 (talk) 17:57, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Agna Group (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Doesn't seem to meet NCORP and I couldn't find much on a WP:BEFORE, but someone more familiar with Albanian sources might have better luck. BuySomeApples (talk) 03:15, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Verdical Group (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NCORP. scope_creepTalk 10:00, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - the page pretty much sounds like a big advertisement. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 19:23, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your feedback! I'm new to writing articles, but feel like this company does a lot for the environment and green building and is certainly notable. I will work on notability and can certainly add more reliable references and rework the article to remove the promotional tone. Jonasstaff (talk) 04:36, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Jonasstaff: If you have WP:THREE WP:SECONDARY sources, post them up so everybody can review them. WP:NCORP is very specific on what can be included as a reference. A lot of references that have been added to the article PR and branding. If three decent sources please post them. scope_creepTalk 18:45, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Texas Cave Conservancy (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Subject does not appear to be notable upon search, and cites no references (only one external link, which is to their website). WormEater13 (talkcontribs) 14:46, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep - I've added a source that might help. There are a lot of sites out there on this subject, as Texas is a kind of paradise for cave lovers. How well that is documented for use as sourcing, I'm not sure. — Maile (talk) 18:56, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    That source does not seem to contribute to WP:GNG or WP:NORG, because it is not WP:SIGCOV (it only has two sentences about the organization). As of right now, there are no sources that are secondary and reliable that are not just a passing mention - which means, there is no real reason to presume that this organization is notable. WormEater13 (talkcontribs) 19:58, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ende Gelände 2020 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Not special enough to have a separate article A1Cafel (talk) 10:53, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Draftify‎. WP:POINTy keep !votes discarded. With no compelling argument against the WP:ATD, closing as draftify. Nominator reminded that anyone can unilaterally draftify an article - far less bitey than an AfD nom. asilvering (talk) 05:05, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Impact of sand loss on sea turtles

Impact of sand loss on sea turtles (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Wikipedia is not the place to store your term paper. Might I suggest Google Drive?  Sumanuil. (talk to me) 07:28, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Add: I hadn't even seen Threats to sea turtles, mentioned below. That is the obvious merge target. The fact that there are no less than three different large articles to which this material could be merged demonstrates that we really do not need another standalone production that consists of 2/3 duplication. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 16:04, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"Speedy keep" is inappropriate because the article has obvious problems - rambling scope and massive duplication of content. Dissatisfaction with the nom statement (which I agree is not very informative) is no reason to toss a substandard article that will have to dealt with back into the pot. Or to put it differently, if this was to be "speedy kept" based on these spurious arguments, I would have it back at AfD with a more elaborate rationale within a day. Let's sort it out her and leave out the unproductive process-lawyering. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 13:13, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I wonder about the origin of this scurrilous notion that an "insufficient nom rationale" alone justifies a keep vote, when at the same time multiple commenters provide a number of valid rationales. Ignoring those is a peculiar type of non-constructive WP:POINTiness that may feel righteous but accomplishes nothing else. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 09:47, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Well, that is your pov and the nomination itself is WP:POINTY, and I have stated it is against WP:GTD which is constructive. Anyone should not get in arguments to make other's points lesser or present their own opinion as a better one. By the way, here is a great point from the same you pointed out-
do not nominate an article for deletion that you don't really believe ought to be deleted, giving the same rationale. with giving no reasons it is the same as noted here.
You can have your pov as long as it is not demeaning others and others can have theirs likewise. HilssaMansen19 (talk) 14:39, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Babarloi Dharna (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article is not providing the significant coverage. According to chatgpt.zero, 98% of article has been created from Artificial Intelligence. The protests details also provided in the Controversial canals project on Indus River's political developments section. Article also fails to pass the WP:GNG and also edited by only two users. Some text excerpted from Controversial canals project on Indus River and there is no sense to keep the article stand alone. Misopatam (talk) 17:42, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Events, Environment, and Pakistan. WCQuidditch 18:14, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep While there may be concerns about AI involvement, Wikipedia's policies do not forbid using AI-generated text as long as the content complies with Wikipedia’s core content policies — especially verifiability, neutrality, and no original research. The subject of this article has been sourced from the reliable sources and doesn't fail WP:GNG. Meanwhile, some of the portion may be covered under the Controversial canals project on Indus River, but the details specific to the protests are substantial enough to merit a standalone article.The article can be improved by human copy editing, rather than deleted completely. Content that overlaps can be trimmed or consolidated, but the existence of partial duplication is not a enough reason for deletion under WP:ContentFork or WP:SUMMARYSTYLE.If the article has capability, we prefer improving it, not deleting it. The topic is current and may attract more coverage over time and It serves readers seeking specific information, which may not be easily found elsewhere. Issues can be solved by cleanup, therefore I recommend improvement if necessary, not deletion. JogiAsad (talk) 19:08, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I suggest you to merge the article in the Controversial canals project on Indus River, in which you can create a separate section named Protests and can write the required text in own words with Reliable and independent sources. Thank you Misopatam (talk) 19:19, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I respectfully disagree with the suggestion to merge Babarloi Dharna into the "Controversial canals project on Indus River" article; because Babarloi Dharna is a specific protest or an event and significant enough on its own, meanwhile The Controversial canals project on Indus River is a larger, broader infrastructure project with multiple issues, possibly including protests. While the two topics are related, they are distinct: Babarloi Dharna is a notable, standalone protest movement that received significant and enough independent media coverage, (i.e news articles, reports, studies, etc.). It is not merely a minor part of the broader canals project, but a major event with its own political and social impact. So therefore it deserves its own Wikipedia article based on Wikipedia's notability guidelines (specially WP:GNG — general notability guideline) and Wikipedia’s notability guidelines (WP:N). Events with substantial coverage in reliable sources merit their own articles. Merging would diminish the independent significance of the Dharna.
    I argue that:
      • The two topics are related, but not identical.
      • Babarloi Dharna is not merely a subtopic; it is a standalone notable event.WP:N
      • Merging would obscure the full coverage and importance of the Dharna, i.e. Sit-ins itself.
      • Controversial canals project on Indus River is a larger, broader infrastructure project with multiple issues, possibly including protests
      • Merging would downplay an important social movement or event that has independent significance. WP:NOTMERGE.
    JogiAsad (talk) 20:24, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge and redirect to Cholistan Canal Project. Fails WP:NEVENT. Gheus (talk) 08:21, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Your merge suggestion isn't relevant to this article. I have elaborated above in details. And it doesn't fails WP:NEVENT. JogiAsad (talk) 18:48, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: Article's title should be changed from Babarloi Dharna to Babarloi Sit-in because former title is not giving news results in search that is why it looks insignificant otherwise the protest has captured significant attention from notable news agencies. If the content of article is artificially generated than it can be easily rephrased or re-written. However, it should not be merged with Cholistan Canal Project as this article covers one the major political movements in the history of Pakistan. مھتاب احمد سنڌي (talk) 10:36, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    So why you have not fixed it or re write it. First improve the article than give the statement that now the problems have been fixed and than vote for the Keep. Misopatam (talk) 15:01, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Sure. مھتاب احمد سنڌي (talk) 18:26, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Done. I'm taking down your vote for now. Thank you Misopatam (talk) 19:42, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    cmt.Issues have been fixed, further you can also fix it.
    JogiAsad (talk) 19:25, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Controversial Canals on Indus River, or Cholistan Canal Project both articles are about the mega project (which has become controversial). It's important to pay attention to the details of a large infrastructure project that has sparked controversy. On the other hand, the article about the Babarloi Dharna/Sit-in highlights a different social and political movement, which covers a public protest against these proposed controversial canal projects.
Combining the protest article with the project-related articles would mix up the topic of dissent with how that dissent is expressed, which isn't right. Just like the Faizabad sit-in is significant enough to have its own article, the Babarloi Dharna / Sit-in article is about the movement against those controversial topics and deserves the same treatment as a standalone article.It is an important civic response, complete with its own timeline, dynamics, leaders, and political effects. For these reasons, the article about the Babarloi Dharna/Sit-in should have its own entry to keep the narrative clear and true to the essence of this protest movement. JogiAsad (talk) 19:01, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have tried to fix the issues, updated the article as per current status. See page revisions. JogiAsad (talk) 21:09, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Sharjah Sustainable City (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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There is no reliably sourced coverage of the subject. None of the sourcing in this article is independent of the UAE government, resulting in a ludicrously credulous and promotional article of this UAE government project. Thenightaway (talk) 05:03, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I understand the concerns raised. I am currently improving the article by adding more independent, reliable sources that provide neutral coverage of the subject. Additionally, I am revising the content to ensure a strictly factual and non-promotional tone, in line with Wikipedia's neutrality policy. Given that the project has received coverage in independent media outlets (such as [Shurooq]), I believe the subject meets Wikipedia’s notability guidelines. I respectfully request additional time to complete these improvements. Below are the links for your reference.
https://shurooq.gov.ae/portfolio/sharjah-sustainable-city
https://www.khaleejtimes.com/business/property/sharjah-sustainable-city-hits-dh2-5-billion-in-sales
https://gulfnews.com/uae/watch-a-sustainable-city-rises-in-sharjah-with-smart-solar-homes-driverless-shuttle-1.86314388
https://www.wam.ae/en/article/dvef0-sharjah-sustainable-city-community-integrating
https://property.constructionweekonline.com/sharjah-sustainable-city-pioneering-eco-friendly-living-and-boosting-uae-real-estate/ 94.203.35.126 (talk) 11:47, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
None of these sources are independent of the subject. Thenightaway (talk) 15:55, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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