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Great Intelligence

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Genuinely surprised by the lack of coverage that exists for this character. I was hoping to improve his article, as its current Reception is primarily plucking smaller quotes and trivial mentions from larger episode reviews, but a search through News, Books, and Scholar yielded very little. All I found was plot summary of the character's appearances and trivial, scattered mentions that don't amount to SIGCOV. The few hits I found that were even close to significant- and indeed the only coverage in the current article that is- are about the Yeti, creations of the Intelligence who somehow have more actual tangible discussion than the Intelligence. This character just lacks any form of significant coverage to justify a whole article, and per NOPAGE, I'd support a redirect or merge to the Yeti article, as they are the subject most closely associated with the Intelligence and thus the best place to put information regarding the Intelligence's character. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 16:05, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements, Science fiction and fantasy, Television, and United Kingdom. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 16:05, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Archangel from the Winter's End Chronicles

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Lots of problems: first, subject fails WP:SIGCOV, WP:SUSTAINED, and WP:RS. One of the sources is "Nerdist," an unreliable source. Even if it was reliable, it's a piece about a kickstarter. The other source is a defunct self published site, and the last source is a niche magazine. It's also a human interest story. On to the most important part; the creator of the page seems to be affiliated with the subject, with the username matching the title and a COI message on the talk page. Fails WP:NOTPROMO, WP:COI, and finally, nobody wants to hear about your garage band. AnonymousScholar49 (talk) 00:24, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Science fiction and fantasy, Television, Entertainment, Technology, Internet, and United States of America. AnonymousScholar49 (talk) 00:24, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Rift (Richards novel)

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Fails WP:NBOOK, most of the article is just plot and cites no reliable sources (I could not find any coverage by RS either). GoldRomean (talk) 16:06, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Science fiction and fantasy and Literature. Shellwood (talk) 16:16, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete There are no published reviews, nothing. Dualpendel (talk) 17:32, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Douglas E. Richards#The Rift Trilogy - I can't find any independent reviews, and the book is self-published. However, there are 2,500 reviews on Amazon, so it's not an obvious delete. This is supposedly a trilogy, according to the Richards article, so this may be WP:TOOSOON. TheDeafWikipedian (talk) 19:37, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Amazon user reviews aren't really usable as far as establishing or arguing notability goes. Anyone can write those, so they're not discerning. At most it can show that the book is popular, but popularity isn't notability. Plus I suppose I'd be remiss if I didn't bring up Robert Stanek, someone who worked overtime to manipulate Amazon and their review system, among other things. I don't think that's the case here, I'm just mentioning this as an example of why user generated reviews don't really hold water with notability. I highly recommend looking into Stanek - it's kind of fascinating all of the things he tried claiming. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 11:03, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I could find no mentions in reliable sources. Littenberg (talk) 16:48, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jedi Quest

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Fails WP:NBOOKS, I didn't any reviews or appearances on bestseller lists. Suggesting a redirection to List of Star Wars books. Mika1h (talk) 17:50, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Science fiction and fantasy and Literature. Mika1h (talk) 17:50, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I'm seeing VALNET stuff like this listicle, so they clearly exist and are discussed, but it's not clear to me whether the series is notable or not. Of note, however, I like the fact that we have one article for a series, rather than one for each of the 11 books, so for that reason, I'm leaning towards keep. Jclemens (talk) 22:50, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Here are some sources I found about books in the series:
1. Thomas, Harry (2001-10-21). "Anakin's trek to dark side". San Antonio Express-News. Archived from the original on 2025-04-14. Retrieved 2025-04-14.
  The review notes: "Star Wars Jedi Quest: Path To Truth ... While the novel is mainly aimed at the 9-12 set, older readers interested in the "Star Wars" universe will find this book interesting, if a little slower than the more adult-oriented novels."
2. "The Way of the Apprentice review". Canadian Review of Materials. 2002-10-18.
  This book verifies that the book was reviewed in Canadian Review of Materials.
3. Szadkowski, Joseph (2001-08-11). "Weapon Kosher deployed to fight the Evil Produce". The Washington Times. Archived from the original on 2025-04-14. Retrieved 2025-04-14.
  The review notes: "3. Star Wars: Jedi Quest, No. 1 (Dark Horse Comics, $2.99). If Anakin is to become a Jedi, he must follow the teachings of his master, Obi-Wan Kenobi. One of the first steps on the long and intense journey to becoming a Jedi is to overcome fear, and the young former slave who now trains to be a Jedi has encountered more than his fair share of fearful elements in the universe. Now, as a Jedi-in-training, Anakin accepts a mission that will force him to confront his deepest, darkest fears - first on a spiritual training exercise, and eventually face-to-face with the memories that haunt him most. The force permeates through 32 pages of Kenobi-inspired color. Why should I (the consumer) care? This four-issue miniseries provides a graphic companion to the Jude Watson's Bantam Star Wars novel of the same name, being released later this month. Readers will get the background on a 12-year-old Anakin Skywalker as he learns the Jedi craft, battles space pirates such as Krayn the ugly, builds his lightsaber and develops a personality only the Dark Lords of the Sith would admire."
Cunard (talk) 06:19, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Here's what I found on ProQuest (via The Wikipedia Library):
- That October 2002 Canadian Review: https://www.proquest.com/magazines/way-apprentice-star-wars-jedi-quest-1/docview/218804420/se-2.
- NYT bestseller list for Children's Books: Jedi Quest: Path to Truth #9 on Sep 9, 2001, Jedi Quest: The Way of the Apprentice #9 on Jun 16, 2002, Jedi Quest: The Dangerous Games #10 on Aug 18, 2002
- Steve Daly "reviews several books related to the motion picture Star Wars: Episode II- Attack of the Clones" for Entertainment Weekly; full review isn't on ProQuest but is still up on EW. This is mostly a single line: "Also in the Bantha-poodoo class are shovelware titles aimed at kids, from Scholastic — dreck like Boba Fett: The Fight to Survive ($9.95) and Jedi Quest: The Trail of the Jedi ($4.99)."
Sariel Xilo (talk) 18:16, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per the sources provided above. Senior Captain Thrawn (talk) 02:15, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 03:45, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment ~~Wow, I remember reading this book. It wasn't very good but that doesn't necessarily mean it wasn't notable. Kevin J. Anderson's first novel in the SW Extended Universe, was it?~~ EDIT: I am clearly thinking about Jedi Search, not Jedi Quest. I see that the only two sources listed in the article are TheForce.net. Let's see if we can do better. I don't think that the fact that any individual book in the series had a brief review in an RS necessarily proves the series' notability. I'd rather see an analysis of the cultural significance of the series overall. ~~In this case, we've got our work cut out for us what with the Anderson novel of the same name jamming the search results.~~Darkfrog24 (talk) 15:36, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 17:24, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Some sources have been found which allow to write a more rounded article through normal editing. Daranios (talk) 10:02, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Science fiction and fantasy proposed deletions

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