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Battle of Radwan 1828

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Only one source that doesn't look RS (a site named yazidis.info that doesn't even exist anymore) and also very POV language ("because if they would not have won the whole Yazidi Population would have been destroyd" [sic]) and unsourced claims that could be controversial ("Before the Battle eyewitnesses said that the Kurds attacked the Yazidis many times there taking them as Sex Slaves and killing them") Laura240406 (talk) 21:33, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Not seeing anything to back this up in the search links. I tried taking "1828" off and seeing what it found but it's nothing relevant. If this topic is real, "Battle of Radwan" is not its correct name. Draft was rejected 4 times at AfC but unilaterally promoted to an article anyway. Given that the article says little, can prove even less, is strongly POV and is borderline incoherent with copious grammatical errors, I think this can be disposed of without any fear of losing anything of value. Even if there is a topic here, it would be far better to start from scratch working from some actual sources not a defunct blog that doesn't really say much or even point to anywhere else to find out more. I'd oppose returning it to draft as there is no sign of even the germ of a valid article here. --DanielRigal (talk) 22:16, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: History, Military, and Turkey. Shellwood (talk) 22:21, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Reviewed this at AfC like a week ago, it was almost entirely LLM generated with only that Yazidi source. Given that nothing else to support this has come up since I'm not convinced that this even really happened. Even then, if this did in fact happen, it certainly does not fulfill WP:GNG if the only thing supporting its existence is that sort-of blog. I'm also strongly opposing draftifying as it is just wasting everyone's time for the original creator to move it back despite repeated declines. Sophisticatedevening🍷^(talk) 22:44, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Definitely not WP:NPOV and only source appears WP:QUESTIONABLE. Also see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Ezidishingali. cyberdog958^Talk 23:29, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Support per nom. Kajmer05 (talk) 23:39, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom --Lenticel ^(talk) 01:03, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete: WP:G5, I am certain the creator is a sock of MHD1234567890 (talk · contribs) See SPI. Aintabli (talk) 01:05, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
CU results from the SPI, notes that the accounts are technically unrelated, but just a week or so ago, Doritoboritoa121 (talk · contribs) drafted this same article on their userpage citing the same sources. I'm unsure if this is a case of WP:MEATPUPPETRY, but this is extremely suspicious. Aintabli (talk) 21:17, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete per nom. Only one source, not coming up online... various type edits needed... Tolozen (talk) 04:04, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I agree with the nomination this article does not meet WP:RS, the sources are unreliable and biased (also only one of the sources are available) DataNomad (talk) 16:10, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Invasion and Massacre of Kurds in Anatolia 1914

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Appears to be a WP:POVFORK about the Armenian genocide. Only uses a single source and has placed heavy WP:UNDUEWEIGHT in favor of the Ottomans in its essay like structure. Was declined multiple times through the AfC process but was moved to the mainspace by the page creator anyways so coming to AfD instead of draftifying. cyberdog958^Talk 20:47, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy Delete under g5 as pretty explicitly involvingPolitics, ethnic relations, and conflicts involving Armenia per Wikipedia:General sanctions/Armenia and Azerbaijan. Creator not extended confirmed. Nothing salvageable in the text.Their deaths were not merely the result of passive victimhood...self-inflicted suffering — a direct consequence of political short-sightedness, opportunistic violence, and tribal ambition} Wow. That's not NPOV. GreenLipstickLesbian 💌🦋 20:53, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) Delete not enough sources (an estimated 600,000 Kurds., well, source?), and undue weight. Also agree with GLL for arbitration reasons. Myrealnamm (💬Let's talk · 📜My work) 21:08, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete WP:TNT virtually nothing in this article is accurate. (t · c) buidhe 22:10, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Polemic and POV. No way to know how much of it is correct. Seems like the Draft was rejected at AfC twice. Also the weird fragment"(O’Ballance, 1996)" makes me wonder whether this was copied from somewhere else although the Copyvio detector doesn't think so. No point in returning it to draft. If there is a topic here then it would be better to find some Reliable Sources and start from scratch using those. --DanielRigal (talk) 22:36, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@DanielRigal: There are similar citations with the same name in the book that the article cites as a source, but I couldn’t find any direct copying from the available preview of the text in Google Books. cyberdog958^Talk 23:06, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Support per nom. Kajmer05 (talk) 23:38, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: see also the deletion discussion of Battle of Radwan 1828 (written by the same user as this one) Laura240406 (talk) 23:57, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom --Lenticel ^(talk) 01:03, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete: WP:G5, I am certain the creator is a sock of MHD1234567890 (talk · contribs) See SPI. Aintabli (talk) 01:07, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ilker Furat

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Fails WP:NBIO. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 19:08, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Northern Syrian regions

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Although these do not automatically merit deletion, the article contains huge chunks of unsourced content and info not supported by the cited reference, which I will get to the details later. More importantly, the major problem with this article is that the concept is a WP:SYNTH. As far as I can see, none of the sources mention or delineate this specific "region". "Northern Syrian regions" is not a phrase precedented in reliable sources that specifically refers to these areas of Turkey. "Northern Syria", even within the context of Ottoman history, refers to a far broader region that contains much of modern Syria or Ottoman Syria, including Aleppo. I initially thought at best, this article could be moved to "Turkish Syria", which is mostly found in over a century-old sources but still also refers to Aleppo: [1] The idea I get from this article is that it describes the areas that would be under the Mandate for Syria and the Lebanon according to the Treaty of Sèvres, which did not come into full effect. If this were the case, that would be a content fork, too. Now, returning to WP:VERIFY issues, the list of failed verifications is long, but here are a couple of examples: Nowhere does a traveler mention in 1910 here Mardin Province is (or would be) ...% Arab in 1927 or in any year. Nowhere in Morality Tales: Law and Gender in the Ottoman Court of Aintab does Leslie P. Peirce mention the 1927, or say 1550, composition of the city of Aintab. Cited references include WP:SELFPUBLISHED maps such as this which ironically also fails verification. As of this revision, about 15-18 paragraphs do not include a single reference, not that the references necessarily support the content. Overall, assuming this weren't a content fork, it would have to be moved to a verifiable name that at least was utilized by 2-3 sources. Then, a complete cleanup would have to be done, and each bit would have to be verified with the cited reference. The insurmountable amount of issues crosses the region of WP:TNT, which is only assuming there is a way to solve the issues of WP:N, WP:REDUNDANTFORK, and WP:SYNTH. Aintabli (talk) 05:01, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Per nom. There is no coherent underlying subject and too many problems to fix and redistribute the content. TheJoyfulTentmaker (talk) 06:56, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Is it possible to move it to the draftspace where I can learn more on wikipedia's style and fix it? DaSeashell (talk) 14:55, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It has been longer than 7 months since this article's creation. Per WP:DRAFTNO and previous RFC, articles older than 3 months should not be draftified without clear consensus. It is highly unlikely this entry would be improved after draftification, because the issue is not just the lack of references, but the concept itself is a synthesis of numerous sources and is not something that is covered in-depth and described clearly by any of the sources here or elsewhere on the Internet. You are welcome to experiment through your sandbox, in this case, for your prospective well-sourced additions with reliable sources to other articles. On the other hand, this entry is simply untenable. Wikipedia is not some blog site, where you can coin and synthesize new terms and info. Aintabli (talk) 16:59, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Uğurcan Karagöz

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NCURLING. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 22:51, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Only fails WP:NCURLING because we could never come up a criteria for the World Championships. But not only has Karagöz played at the World Championships, he was the skip (captain) of the Turkish team. I would imagine there must be some Turkish language sources that cover him.-- Earl Andrew - talk 04:25, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Siege of Kemah (1515)

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WP:GNG I can’t find the necessary sources to verify and establish the subject’s notability. The sources cited in the article do not mention the siege.Iranian112 (talk) 13:09, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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~~Redirect~~ to Kemah, Erzincan#History: The siege is mentioned in all 4 sources; however, almost all are passing mentions. At best, here, we learn the defending commander's name. Most sources I could find through a quick search were also passing mentions. Maybe this source is not a passing mention, but it merely concerns the route Selim took to reach Kemah. Aintabli (talk) 15:32, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The sources refer to conquest, not siege. Iranian112 (talk) 15:41, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That's not correct; at least two of the four sources cited explicitly refer to a siege: "kuşatma", "muhasara" Plenty of sources not cited here refer to it as a siege: [2][3][4] "Conquest" and sieges are not mutually exclusive concepts. Regardless, my vote is not to keep. Aintabli (talk) 17:55, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge into Kemah, Erzincan#History: Changing my vote to merge as the siege is surprisingly not mentioned by the town's Wikipedia article. I suggest discarding the municipality and governor's websites and keeping TDV İslâm Ansiklopedisi when merging. Aintabli (talk) 02:28, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Meditopia

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Entirely promotional and fails WP:NORG. Amigao (talk) 01:40, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - WP:ILIKEIT, but it doesn't meet WP:NCORP. Sources are routine announcements, funding, etc. Nothing I find meets WP:ORGCRIT. --CNMall41 (talk) 20:59, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Thoughts on the newly added references?
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I’ve trimmed the article significantly to take out anything that sounded promotional or was just routine info. What’s left is backed by solid, independent sources like TechCrunch, Forbes, and Deloitte, which offer real coverage that meets notability guidelines WP:NCORP / WP:ORGCRIT. I think the article should stay, and I’m totally open to improving it further with help from other editors. Hariseldon42 (talk) 12:33, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Delete Even with the trimmed-down version with less promotional material, I do not believe meditopia meets WP:NORG or WP:GNG. Current sources are not covering the app/company in detail; most are simply routine coverage of business investments in business-focused papers/journals. As a company itself I don't think Deloitte is independent here. A further search for sources returns much of the same. Unless someone can identify reliable secondary sources with in-depth coverage of meditopia that is not reliant on executive interviews then this article should be deleted.

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