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Michael Brunsky (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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No indication of significance. Single refs doesn't contain his name (at the end of doc). Fails WP:NSINGER, WP:SIGCOV, WP:BIO. scope_creep^Talk 07:25, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians and Ukraine. Shellwood (talk) 11:40, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to Merited Artist of Ukraine – As WP:ATD. Svartner (talk) 13:12, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Slavic shamanism (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Original research combined with nonsense. There is no such thing as "Slavic shamanism", no more than "Slavic druidism", "Slavic kabbalism", "Slavic voodooism", and so on, although one may concoct the corresponding texts with a bit of fantasy. All these terms are culture-specific and let them be so. --Altenmann >talk 06:14, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. "Baba Yaga's Book of Witchcraft" self-published by a tarot-reader as the main source of wisdom there? Really? Hold my beer. I have a couple of articles to write... --Altenmann >talk 06:26, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• The first reference (Gieysztor 2006) is available via Google, but the cited page does not contain anything substantial about Slavic shamanism. Delete, at least based on current sources. 84.251.164.143 (talk) 06:40, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  What also makes this article suspect is that the only other article that links here from its main text (and not from templates or See alsos) is Regional forms of shamanism. However, the text is not independent of the text in this article. If this were a thing, I would expect more incoming links. 84.251.164.143 (talk) 18:30, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Religion-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 09:45, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Belarus, Russia, and Ukraine. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 10:54, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, probably could be redirected to Slavic Paganism, which would probably cover whatever topic this is currently trying to be about. -Samoht27 (talk) 16:17, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Luhansk Oblast campaign order of battle (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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This is an inappropriate content fork and fluffery (fluffing up something to give the appearance of much more substance than it actually has. It takes this version of units in the infobox at Luhansk Oblast campaign (six or less units on each side) and pads it out by using a tree structure - which is misleading if all of a formation is not supported as participating. It also uses MOS:FLAGCRUFT and is decorative rather than encyclopedic. Some of the structure is probably assumed from WP articles rather than being sourced Cinderella157 (talk) 02:19, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 04:48, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep

^{This is an inappropriate content fork and fluffery (fluffing up something to give the appearance of much more substance than it actually has}

To be honest, I’m still unclear about what exactly constitutes 'inappropriate content,' but I don’t believe the term 'Fluffery' applies here. The Luhansk Oblast campaign spans approximately 130 km of frontline combat and is currently fragmented into three fronts (Kupyansk, Borova, and Lyman)[1]. If you think this page is purely 'Fluffery,' then you are mistaken

It takes this version of units in the infobox at Luhansk Oblast campaign (six or less units on each side) and pads it out by using a tree structure - which is misleading if all of a formation is not supported as participating.

I didn’t copy-paste from the old version you mentioned because the references there were too outdated (2022-2023). I also didn’t add units without checking. Like, you can see almost all my references are from November 2024 at the latest. If you don’t believe, go check the references one by one to see if those units were really involved.

It also uses MOS:FLAGCRUFT and is decorative rather than encyclopedic. Some of the structure is probably assumed from WP articles rather than being sourced

Also, I’m still confused why I violated MOS:FLAGCRUFT. If you could explain, I’d really appreciate it. Bukansatya (talk) 09:35, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I believe that you’re using the term “inappropriate content fork” very loosely, as this article, simply put, is not inappropriate and serves a useful purpose. Like Bukansatya explained above, the campaign is across a 130km frontline across 3 main fronts. As it is already, these fronts have lots of units involved as all 3 fronts are focal points of Russian offensive operations.

As well as that, I think that your accusation of “fluffery” is being done in assuming bad faith. As I said, it is a large front with many, many units involved on both sides. There is nothing wrong with listing all of the involved units, as that is the entire purpose of an order of battle article; to list all of the involved units when the list is too large for a regular info box. On top of that, all of these units are cited directly from the ISW, which the article’s citations prove (I just checked the cited sources). And adding onto all of this, the article’s structure is completely fine as it is. It is a standard dot point list, with no “fluffery” and any extra details or anything of that nature to try and inflate the size.

This article also lies exactly in line with other order of battle articles (example: Pokrovsk offensive order of battle), effectively identical, with the only differences being the actual individual units and the locations. If you are going to nominate this article for deletion based on the reasons you provided, you should treat all other articles meeting the same standards equally. IiSmxyzXX (talk) 12:35, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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