Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/Archive/March 2007

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Eventhough the toolserver database only contains obsolete data, it still has its uses. I suggest the following templates (categories if / when we find 60 articles):

• {{Ukraine-politician-stub}} Stub Sense reports 49 articles (out of 330 articles. The category now holds 390 articles).[1]
• {{Luxembourg-politician-stub}} Stub Sense reports two figures: 47 [2] and 54.[3] Iff we get a category, I'd like to hear some native speakers of English commenting on the category name. We have Category:Luxembourgian politicians but Category:Luxembourgish people. I presume this means that the correct name will be Category:Luxembourgian politician stubs if / when we find 60 stubs?
• {{Lithuania-politician-stub}} Stub Sense gives 53 [4] which is probably a little too high. Anyway, enough for an upmerged template.
• {{Iceland-politician-stub}} 40+, upmerged template
• {{Croatia-politician-stub}} 40+, upmerged template
• {{Serbia-politician-stub}} 40+, upmerged template

Valentinian ^{T / C} 01:04, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Wiktionary suggests that Luxembourgian is the noun, Luxembourgish is the adjective. Thus bio-stubs relating to Luxembourgians should be in Cat: Luxembourgish people stubs. The politicians permcat is thus incorrectly named and should probably go to CFD. Grutness...wha? 01:28, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Based on both List of adjectival forms of place names and the style guide I use, the GPO style guide, Luxembourger is the noun, and Luxembourg is the adjective form to be used. Firefox's spell checker doesn't complain about Luxembourgian (or Luxembourger), but it does not like Luxembourgish at all. Luxembourgian appears to refer to the language not the people. My 1962 copy of Webster's New International Dictionary, Second Edition, doesn't give any adjectival forms at all which suggests that the word hasn't been in the English language long enough to obtain a definitive adjective form. Still, given that we have several sources that concur that using Luxembourg people and Luxembourg politicians is correct usage (not necessarily the only correct usage, but at least a correct usage) why don't we go with Category:Luxembourg politician stub? Caerwine Caer’s whines 09:14, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

I'd prefer a name as consistent with the others as possible but if the permcat goes to CFD, a lot of other categories need to go the same way (see subcats of Category:Luxembourgish people, most importantly Category:Luxembourgian people by occupation) Valentinian ^{T / C} 13:42, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Because of this discussion I've done a mass CFD nomination at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2007_March_25#Luxembourgian_people suggesting a standardization on Luxembourgian. Caerwine Caer’s whines 19:41, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

I've been bold and given Lithuania a proper category anyway; I found almost 70 articles. Valentinian ^{T / C} 19:36, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

{{wintersport-bio-stub}} is over 650 articles, 2 sports and three nationalities having there own categories, according to stubsense the following would be possible (remember numbers may be inflated as I haven't done a hand count)

• Category:Ski jumping biography stubs / {{Skijump-bio-stub}} (207 articles)

• {{Norway-skijump-bio-stub}} (45 articles) (upmerged included in above total)

• Category:Cross country skiing biography stubs / {{XC-skiing-bio-stub}} (229 articles excluding below)

• Category:Swedish cross country skiing biography stubs / {{Sweden-XC-skiing-bio-stub}} (78 articles)
• Category:Finnish cross country skiing biography stubs / {{Finland-XC-skiing-bio-stub}} (75 articles)
• Category:Norwegian cross country skiing biography stubs / {{Norway-XC-skiing-bio-stub}} (76 articles)
• Category:Russian cross country skiing biography stubs / {{Russia-XC-skiing-bio-stub}} (70 articles)

• Category:Alpine skiing biography stubs / {{Alpine-skiing-bio-stub}} (194 articles).

Waacstats 17:55, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

• Seems like a good plan to me. Alai 18:15, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
• I can't say I'm happy about about using an abbreviation, albeit one that is well determined as long as skiing is being mentioned. How about Category:Nordic skiing biography stubs / {{Nordic-skiing-bio}} et al. instead of the XC entries? At the least, we could use it as a parent anyway for those who compete in the Nordic combined so as to as avoid double stubbing. Also, shouldn't that be {{skijumping-bio-stub}}? After all, we don't have a {{ski-bio-stub}}. Finally, we ought to consider {{biathlete-stub}} (65 entries) and either {{shootingsport-bio-stub}} (123 entries, not counting the biathletes) or {{shootingsport-stub}} (25 non-bio entries plus the athletes) to serve as a second parent for the biathlete stubs short of Category:Firearms stubs. (All numbers courtesy of Stub Sense). Caerwine Caer’s whines 23:13, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

• I agree that it probably should be skiijumping and not skijump, I also have no problem with using crosscountry as opposed to XC it's just that when you have a nation split the template becomes very large but then that not a big problem. Using nordic skiing instead of XC would not be a good idea because nordic skiing also encompases ski jumping, biathlon, nordic combined but as a parent for these cats I think would be useful

I back a proposal for biathlon but suggest {{biathlon-bio-stub}} in case there are any people who are known for there involvement in biathlon without necessarily being biathletes (coaches, organisers, announcers etc). I also back Category:Sports shooters biography stubs but should the template be at {{shootingsports-bio-stub}} (the events are categorised under shooting sports) or {{sportshooting-bio-stub}} (the people involved are categorised under sport shooters). Waacstats 11:22, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

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