Wikipedia:WikiProject Tree of Life/Cladogram requests/Archive 11

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Hi. I intend to rewrite the entire Nothofagus menziesii article in the coming months. Requesting a cladogram that will look similar to [1] Fig. 1, Subsect. Lophozonia. The Nothofagus genus is a personal favorite. Cheers. Alexeyevitch^(talk) 23:04, 22 March 2025 (UTC)

Working on it... A Cynical Idealist (talk) 23:10, 22 March 2025 (UTC)

Done @Alexeyevitch: A Cynical Idealist (talk) 23:40, 22 March 2025 (UTC)

Thank you. Alexeyevitch^(talk) 01:16, 23 March 2025 (UTC)

Hi, I am editing the article Diplodia corticola for my college course. I would like to add a similar cladogram as this one. [2]. Diploda corticola is the asexual stage of  Botryosphaeria corticola. The cladogram does not have to be that complex. You can only focus on the Diplodia family. Thank you Itschristianbonilla (talk) 16:49, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

Can you provide the link to the actual article as well? I am unfamiliar with fungi, and the meaning of some of the small horizontal lines in the cladogram you provided is unclear to me. Perhaps the article itself could explain it better. Or maybe someone else is better suited to tackle this one. Cougroyalty (talk) 19:17, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

@Itschristianbonilla: I made this. No idea what fungal cladograms are supposed to look like but this is my best attempt. A Cynical Idealist (talk) 19:24, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

Hi there! I am working on the Myliobatiformes article as a WikiEd project, and my professor led me here to request a cladogram for the order. It is one of the four orders of batoids, and has 12 families as its children. Among these families are stingrays, eagle rays, and manta rays! Dancin&Lovin (talk) 15:27, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Happy to help! Do you have a source or reference to create a cladogram from? -SlvrHwk (talk) 16:02, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Thank you! I have been referencing this list from World Register of Marine Species (WORMS). https://www.marinespecies.org/aphia.php?p=taxdetails&id=196069 Dancin&Lovin (talk) 19:02, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

A list of taxa is not enough to make a cladogram. Per the rules of Wikipedia (WP:OR), we can only recreate existing cladograms that are published in scientific literature, and the link you sent doesn't contain a cladogram or any other kind of discernible info from which to make such a diagram. A Cynical Idealist (talk) 19:33, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Here is a cladogram from Advances of Marine Biology, 2017 via ScienceDirect. The cladogram can be seen in section E. of chapter 4. Hopefully this will work! Dancin&Lovin (talk) 13:49, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

Do you have a link? Article/chapter title? -SlvrHwk (talk) 14:25, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/B9780126709506500059

Chapter 4 Interrelationships of Batoid Fishes, Section E Phylogenetic Analysis Dancin&Lovin (talk) 14:41, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

Dancin&Lovin do you have any input regarding the suggestions below? As a note, the source you provided is not from Advances of Marine Biology, not was it published in 2017. The references provided by Jts1882 are likely more up-to-date. -SlvrHwk (talk) 21:07, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

The sources provided by Jts1882 look great and would be just right for the article. Thank you @Jts1882 for contributing. Dancin&Lovin (talk) 21:06, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

@Dancin&Lovin: Cladogram from Rays of the World (Fig, 2.1) added below: -SlvrHwk (talk) 21:39, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

Thank you! @SlvrHwk Dancin&Lovin (talk) 22:50, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

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You could use Chondrichthyan Tree of Life. You can get a cladogram of the Myliobatiformes by expanding the node. However, there are inconistencies with the family taxonomy in the Wikipedia article. A couple of species out of place (Dasyatis microps and Himantura schmardae) and Zanobatus groups with the Rhinopristiformes.  —  Jts1882 | talk  14:49, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

Alternatively there is a cladogram in Rays of the World (2016), available from Internet Archive (one hour loans) or Googlebooks (partial preview).  —  Jts1882 | talk  15:24, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

Requesting a new Xenarthra family tree based on figure 3 of Molecular phylogenetics unveils the ancient evolutionary origins of the enigmatic fairy armadillos Please focus only on genera. LittleJerry (talk) 18:46, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

Working on it. A Cynical Idealist (talk) 18:53, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

@LittleJerry: Done. A Cynical Idealist (talk) 19:03, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

Fixed the cladogram. Two of the clades weren't displaying (Dasypus and Calyptophractus+Chlamyphorus). I added the subfamilies in a separate edit so if they aren't wanted the cladogram can be got from the page history (this edit).  —  Jts1882 | talk  09:33, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

Requesting that the Deltatheroida branch in Figure 5 from this 2015 paper be made into a wiki-usable cladogram. Olmagon (talk) 20:35, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

Olmagon: how does this look? Do you want Pappotherium included as well? -SlvrHwk (talk) 21:20, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

Yeah that looks good. I'm not entirely sure whether to add Pappo, it seems to be a deltatheroidan yet that paper puts it just outside the clade for some reason. Olmagon (talk) 21:47, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

Actually can this be changed to resemble the way it's shown in Figure 4 of this instead @SlvrHwk, it seems to be a bit more recent and puts Papp into the clade. Olmagon (talk) 21:54, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

This look better? -SlvrHwk (talk) 22:09, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

Yeah thanks Olmagon (talk) 23:41, 17 April 2025 (UTC)