Thylacinidae and Thylacoleonidae cladogram requests
Hi, can I request that the cladograms from [2] and [3] be coded up? For the second image, I don't really care if A or B is coded up (per the source: "A, Strict consensus of five most parsimonious trees (tree length = 154) from the maximum parsimony analysis; B, 50% majority rule consensus") Hemiauchenia (talk) 19:12, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
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On second thoughts, I only think I need the first of the those two [4], and I would be okay with the cladogram being solely reduced to Sphenodontidae, which should cut down on the work required to make the cladogram considerably. Hemiauchenia (talk) 20:05, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
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Some crustaceans and stuff
Can I please request 2 cladograms made from figure 5 of this paper? I know it's an absolute monster of a cladogram so for the first one, instead of showing every genus I'd like for the shown branches to stop at the families. The second one I'd like is a cladogram for just Stenochiridae. Olmagon (talk) 12:07, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
Hemiauchenia pointed out issues with a morphology-based cladogram used in some mammoth articles, and added a newer genetic study, but the resulting cladogram is WP:synth of the two and should just be entirely replaced by the newer cladogram. So I'd like to see if fig. 3 from this[6] paper could be made. FunkMonk (talk) 18:39, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
It is fundamentally impossible to correctly and accurately represent the relationships between woolly and Columbian mammoths using a standard binary splitting cladogram. Really an image needs to be created in order to show the nuance. This diagram in Nature isn't a bad template.[7]. Hemiauchenia (talk) 20:20, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
We can't combine different trees, and the point here is to show relationships between species. The complex relations between woolly and Columbian mammoths is described in detail in an entire section below anyway. FunkMonk (talk) 21:20, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
The cladogram looks good and I've added it to the woolly mammoth article, SlvrHwk, but I just noticed that the Elephantidae label is on the clade that includes Mammut americanum, but it was outside this clade. Could you move the Elephantidae label to the clade that includes the rest but excludes Mammut americanum? The paper doesn't give a name for the more inclusive clade. FunkMonk (talk) 23:21, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
Thanks, that's more what I needed for that article. I only need the lowermost clade that starts with Vestiaria coccinea down to Ciridops, but the whole one could of course be used elsewhere. Could I get that last clade on its own? FunkMonk (talk) 04:24, 12 May 2024 (UTC)