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Redesigning Wikipedia, bit by bit

Redesigning the left sidebar

Wikipedia’s design has changed very little in the last ten years. For example, the current Vector skin was introduced in 2010 (although some changes are currently being planned—more on that below), the Main Page has had basically the same layout since 2006, and that sidebar on the left-hand side of the page with all the links is almost as old. A recent WMF-funded report concluded in part that the sidebar was one of the most confusing parts of Wikipedia's design for casual readers:

Editors have tried to improve the sidebar over the last decade. A 2013 request for comments (RfC) on the sidebar noted that:

The RfC proposed a new design for the sidebar which featured several collapsible sections. Ultimately, there was no consensus to make the change. After an incubation period at the Village Pump Idea Lab, the RfC was formally introduced (and advertised) this month. This year's RfC page has a different format: rather than one proposal to completely change the sidebar, many smaller proposals have been made to add or remove links. There are too many proposals to discuss each one, but here's the table of contents:

   1 Background
   2 Reorderings
       2.1 Reorder the links in the left sidebar to create a new "contribute" section
       2.2 Move Wikidata to "In other projects"
       2.3 Move "In other projects" under "Print/export"
       2.4 Separate "Page tools" and "User tools"
       2.5 Move "Print/export" above "Tools"
   3 Renamings
       3.1 Donate to Wikipedia → Donate
       3.2 Wikipedia store → Merchandise
       3.3 About Wikipedia → About
       3.4 Contact page → Contact
       3.5 Main page → Main Page
       3.6 Logs → Logged actions
       3.7 Languages → In other languages
       3.8 User rights management → Manage user rights
       3.9 Tools section → ???
       3.10 Print/export → Export
       3.11 Mute preferences → Mute this user
       3.12 Printable version → Print
       3.13 Download as PDF → Save as PDF
   4 Additions
       4.1 An introduction to contributing page
       4.2 An FAQ page
       4.3 A dashboard
       4.4 Logs
       4.5 Deleted contributions
       4.6 Search page
   5 Removals
       5.1 Featured content
       5.2 Upload file
       5.3 Permanent link
       5.4 Wikipedia store
       5.5 Print/export (both "Download as PDF" and "Printable version")
       5.6 Random Article
       5.7 Recent changes
   6 Autocollapsing
       6.1 "Tools" section
   7 Changing tooltips
       7.1 Comprehensive overview
       7.2 Featured content tooltip
       7.3 Current events tooltip
       7.4 Random article tooltip
       7.5 Donate to Wikipedia tooltip
       7.6 Wikipedia store tooltip
       7.7 About Wikipedia tooltip
       7.8 Community portal tooltip
       7.9 Recent changes tooltip
       7.10 Contact page tooltip
       7.11 Upload file tooltip
       7.12 Special pages tooltip
       7.13 Permanent link tooltip
       7.14 Page information tooltip
       7.15 Wikidata item tooltip
       7.16 Logs tooltip
       7.17 View user groups tooltip
       7.18 Mute preferences tooltip
       7.19 Download as PDF tooltip
   8 A Customizable Sidebar (or an Advanced Mode)
   9 A note on power users, usability, and systemic bias
   10 Technical underpinnings
       10.1 Sidebar settings page
       10.2 Tools
   11 Comparison to other projects and languages

While the English Wikipedia community works to make the sidebar better for readers and editors, the Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) has been proceeding with its own plans to update the Vector skin. Current plans concern two proposed changes that would be incorporated into the standard Vector skin: moving the language selector to the top right of the page, and collapsing the sidebar by default. The WMF is currently accepting feedback on the changes here. —P

April Fools' Day: have we gone too far with the pranks?

This year's April Fools' Day festivities were some of the more chaotic ones in recent memory. Articles for Deletion had a record 93 nominations (not counting some deleted coronavirus-related ones), which was about double the amount of serious nominations that day. Editing the page meant to document all the pranks was near-impossible due to edit conflicts caused by 1) yet another edit war over the title of the "other pranks"/"general tomfoolery", and 2) outright vandalism of the page (typical example here), though this one became less of a problem after the page was semi-protected. By the end of the day, it was a foregone conclusion that there would be an RfC to bring about some changes to how Wikipedia celebrates April 1. (Similar RfCs took place in 2013 and 2016.) Notable proposals on the RfC page include:

Requiring the customary joke "did you know..." entries to be labelled as jokes)
Clarifying that vandalism of the year's prank log page is prohibited
Banning joke deletion nominations

—P

In brief

On Wikipedia talk:Non-free content, eliminating or restricting vector graphics has been proposed as a necessary step to comply with the fair-use requirement of minimal infringement of the owner's rights, which in Wikipedia's compliance means low-resolution graphics. This is technically impossible with vector graphics, as they are inherently resolution independent. —B
On Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Accessibility: Should all tables be required to have captions? This change was proposed with the goal of making Wikipedia more accessible to blind readers who use screen readers, though some users see making this a bright-line rule to be overkill. —P
On current events: discussion at WikiProject COVID-19 (the subject of last issue's WikiProject report) that is contemplating removal of the current-event template {{Current}} at the top of some articles. —B
On the policy village pump: Should a "Main Page Editor" usergroup be created with the editprotected and protect (at least until editcascadeprotected gets implemented) rights? This would allow non-admins to edit the main page in order to fix errors. —P
Also on the policy village pump: Proposed updates to Wikipedia's policy on bureaucrat activity, to remove the provision that allows bureaucrats to keep their tools if they express willingness to participate in bureaucrat activities but don't actually use the tools. —P

Follow-ups

The proposal to remove the section on job titles from MOS:BIOGRAPHY closed with a result of no consensus. —P
The other three discussions mentioned in the last issue are all still open. —P

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I'm glad to see the coverage of the sidebar update. For anyone just coming across the conversation now, some of the proposals look to me to be ready to close, with SNOW in some cases. If you are uninvolved and feel confident assessing consensus, please consider making some closes rather than just adding on to the pile. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 22:01, 26 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
There's also a discussion at VP Proposals on whether to grant editcontentmodel to template editors and mass message senders. — Wug·a·po·des 01:12, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for pointing this out! Sometimes things slip through the cracks so it’s good that other people are following these discussions closely as well. —pythoncoder (talk | contribs) 15:33, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Why do designers refuse to understand that white space is wasted space which could have been filled with useful information? --Orange Mike | Talk 18:43, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Because that is an incorrect opinion not borne out by decades of usability research or other sciences. The fact is that a measure of 72 characters is best and healthiest for the eyes. White space allows for users to quickly distinguish various elements in a screen, reducing eye strain and recognition fatigue. A better question is "why do Wikipedians refuse to understand that their personal use case or preference is not the only one that should be, and that there are many users with different needs?--Jorm (talk) 19:27, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
That comment would have been better without that last sentence. --Yair rand (talk) 19:42, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Personally, I’d like to see page width capped at 1280px (or maybe less). Reading isn’t too bad on my 1280×800 laptop screen but I’ve read WP on desktops and it’s much more annoying. Probably wouldn’t be too hard to code. —pythoncoder (talk | contribs) 18:46, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Jorm, Yair rand, and Pythoncoder: there's certainly a lot more usability work to be done on Wikipedia. Perhaps once the sidebar redesign concludes, we can try to reinvigorate WP:WikiProject Usability and take on other tasks. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 19:22, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I'm over being shit on by the community for trying to improve Wikipedia's usability. But ya'll have fun.--Jorm (talk) 19:34, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"April Fools' Day: have we gone too far with the pranks?" lol, literally EVERY april fools since I joined. :D —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 12:11, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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