Wikipedia:Requests for deletion/Requests/2024/Fabio Mancini
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The outcome of this request for deletion was to Delete. fr33kman 17:24, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
Fabio Mancini
BRPever has nominated this page for deletion for the reason: Lacks many substantial reliable sources. Likely doesn't meet WP:GNG either. BRP ever 18:34, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
Please discuss this request below, but keep in mind that you shouldn't vote on everything and that there may be options other than "keep" or "delete", such as merging.
Discussion
Delete The deletion log on the Italian Wikipedia (it:Fabio Mancini (modello)) speaks for itself. ✩ Dream Indigo ✩ 22:13, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- It was also nominated for deletion twice on enwiki (en:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fabio Mancini (2nd nomination)), notice how most "Keep"s are from users who made few or no other edits outside that topic. ✩ Dream Indigo ✩ 22:20, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- The article being deleted on another Wikipedia is not a reason to delete it here. We don't know what was in the other article. It might not have had anything showing notability, but the article here might show it. -- Auntof6 (talk) 07:49, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
Keep as the subject is notable enough and is one of Armani's long-standing models. He has been recognized as Vogue Hommes' "Best Fitness Models," Out magazine's "50 Hottest Male Models of All Time," and others. He does have reliable independent sources; please recheck, like The Daily Telegraph, Daily Mail, Vogue France, Out, Vanity Fair, and others. Maybe it needs more reliable sources, but I believe deletion is not the best way here. Wikiwordssmith (talk) 17:27, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
Keep - As above, the article has good number of references of all type, no need to forget about that. The subject has famous magazines recognitions. --CooksAnna (talk) 17:36, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
Delete per nom and Dream Indigo - It's been deleted
twiceonce on Enwiki and a staggering 5 times on ItalyWiki so that tells me everything I need to know - nonetheless done a BEFORE search and didn't find anything substantial, Fails NPEOPLE and GNG. --–Davey2010Talk 17:37, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Comment You are wrong here, Davey2010. I don't know if you know how to check or not, but the article was deleted once on EnWiki. And I would only say this in defense of this article that it might lack substantial reliable sources, but I would not use the word "many" for it. Because many of the sources are reliable. Just like Wikiwordssmith mentioned, you are not looking on the bright side here. The L'Officiel magazine source or Out magazine are not reliable? His book was recently published by Rizzoli Libri, and they have it on their official website; it looks notable enough and a reliable source to me. He has a few less reliable sources, so my recommendation would be to remove those sources or put an improvement tag on the article. --CooksAnna (talk) 12:02, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- It was indeed deleted only once so I've amended that, Releasing a book and being named in a trivial list as "50 Hottest Male Models of All Time" doesn't automatically mean they're notable, The English Wikipedia deemed this as non notable because of lack of INDEPTH coverage which I also agree with.
- Lastly please don't make comments such as you are not looking on the bright side here as that could be deemed a personal attack and something you could be blocked for - I'm entitled to my opinion which you're more than welcome to disagree with but making those sorts of comments does you no favours and it doesn't help in this discussion, Thanks. –Davey2010Talk 13:13, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- Comment You are wrong here, Davey2010. I don't know if you know how to check or not, but the article was deleted once on EnWiki. And I would only say this in defense of this article that it might lack substantial reliable sources, but I would not use the word "many" for it. Because many of the sources are reliable. Just like Wikiwordssmith mentioned, you are not looking on the bright side here. The L'Officiel magazine source or Out magazine are not reliable? His book was recently published by Rizzoli Libri, and they have it on their official website; it looks notable enough and a reliable source to me. He has a few less reliable sources, so my recommendation would be to remove those sources or put an improvement tag on the article. --CooksAnna (talk) 12:02, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
Keep:Dear @Davey2010 @Dream Indigo @BRPever can I ask how can is possible he have other 14 different pages in many languages and he cannot have an English one? Wiki France Fabio_Mancini_(mannequin) , Wiki German:https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabio_Mancini , Wiki Greece: https://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/Φάμπιο_Μαντσίνι, Wiki Japan: ファビオ・マンチーニ , Wiki Arab: https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/فابيو_مانشيني ,Wiki Spanish: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabio_Mancini , Wiki Portugal:https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabio_Mancini , Wiki Korea: https://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/파비오_만치니other 6/7 languages if you search on all the pages. The question now is: if he is famous in all over the world, recognised worldwide ( the other 14 wiki pages describes perfectly ) WHAT IS THE PROBLEM??????????? 2409:40F2:2098:41E5:251C:B318:4D2A:3A10 (talk) 07:08, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- You'll get nowhere yelling at us WHAT IS THE PROBLEM???????????, please read this if you don't know why I said "yelling", thank you. ✩ Dream Indigo ✩ 08:39, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'LL TELL YOU THE PROBLEM; The other Wikipedias don't have any standards and or there's not enough editors to check articles whereas here and the English Wikipedia we patrol new changes/pages every day so new articles are picked up 10x quicker, Once you create an article on a non-English Wikipedia it stays without being checked or even noticed. –Davey2010Talk 13:05, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- ‘’Keep’’ @Dream Indigo @Davey2010 : FROM WIKIPEDIA: Wikipedia is a free content online encyclopedia written and maintained by a community of volunteers, known as Wikipedians, through open collaboration and the wiki software MediaWiki.
- To be verifiable; if no reliable (he do have a lot!!!!!!) in every language - , independent sources can be found on a topic, then it should not have a separate article. Wikipedia's concept of notability applies this basic standard to avoid indiscriminate inclusion of topics. ‘’Article and list topics must be notable, or "worthy of notice.’’ Can you please explain us of this famous top model is everywhere ONLINE in GOOGLE why he cant be on wiki English? A guy Who make the history of fashion, this is literally with NO sense. I think i will write to Jimmy Wales and Larry Sanger for yours Indecent behaviour. 2409:40F2:2098:41E5:14FF:2FD4:1A54:6A1D (talk) 13:23, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Please read en:WP:Notability and en:WP:INDEPTH, Good luck with that - I look forward to reading what Jim has to say about us upholding core policies here and not letting Simple be overrun with spam :). Whilst you're at it go read en:WP:BLUDGEON. –Davey2010Talk 14:09, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for explaining Davey and me what Wikipedia is, we didn't know it. I still vote delete, thank you. And the thousands of pictures aren't what makes somebody notable. Fame ≠ Notability. Hope this helps. Good luck with that email to the Wikipedia Gods. ✩ Dream Indigo ✩ 15:36, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Dream Indigo I think it's safe to say Jimmy and the WMF have far more important issues to deal with than us :), I think we'd be at the bottom of that very long list of problems :) –Davey2010Talk 15:44, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'LL TELL YOU THE PROBLEM; The other Wikipedias don't have any standards and or there's not enough editors to check articles whereas here and the English Wikipedia we patrol new changes/pages every day so new articles are picked up 10x quicker, Once you create an article on a non-English Wikipedia it stays without being checked or even noticed. –Davey2010Talk 13:05, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- You'll get nowhere yelling at us WHAT IS THE PROBLEM???????????, please read this if you don't know why I said "yelling", thank you. ✩ Dream Indigo ✩ 08:39, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
Delete clear delete, no reliable sources cover the subject. --IWI (talk) 13:17, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- 550.000 picture of him in google cane from NO reliable sources? So all the people who reconize him are crazy?? Can you explain? Fabio Mancini
- https://g.co/kgs/BtHnvrS
- 2409:40F2:2098:41E5:14FF:2FD4:1A54:6A1D (talk) 13:26, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
Delete - As IWI mentions, this is a clear delete. There is insufficient coverage in reliable sources, to give any notability to the subject of this article. It fails both NPEOPLE and the General Notability Guidelines. Needs to go. DaneGeld (talk) 13:23, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Same for you, this is not enough? 550.000 images and articles are not reliable? I think you should be and more easy to open wiki to all to give more good info and not only write what u want! Open your eyes Fabio Mancini
- https://g.co/kgs/BtHnvrS
- 2409:40F2:2098:41E5:14FF:2FD4:1A54:6A1D (talk) 13:29, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- No, it's not enough for me. Sorry. @Davey2010: @Dream Indigo:, this might interest you... Funnily enough, this "550,000" images thing, was also bought up on the English Wikipedia when the article was nominated (and subsequently removed). What is so important to this, and the other IP (on the same range, I might add), that they want this article on here? Are they annoyed it was removed from the English Wikipedia? I have other ideas, but to avoid prejudicing myself, I won't add those on here. Remembering the civility guidelines, I'll stay quiet now. DaneGeld (talk) 20:36, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Open your eyes, thank you: Fabio Mancini
- https://g.co/kgs/BtHnvrS
- 2409:40F2:2098:41E5:14FF:2FD4:1A54:6A1D (talk) 13:29, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
Comment: Moved comment down. ✩ Dream Indigo ✩ 20:50, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
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