Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Baseball

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Baseball

Articles for deletion

Michael Byrne (baseball)

Michael Byrne (baseball) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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fails WP:GNG; I did some searching and was not able to find significant coverage in any reliable source Joeykai (talk) 05:03, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Delete, since I understand the point about the 2025 article, but I couldn't find anything more than just that And yes, I know that in the past I claimed to be unfamiliar with the deletion policy, but I am now. JTZegers (talk) 18:36, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. The 2025 article brought up by Muboshgu is non-routine SIGCOV, but that alone is not enough to pass GNG, which generally requires multiple such references. Willing to reconsider if more coverage is made available so please ping me. Frank Anchor 21:15, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    It's a local transactional report about him getting hired. SportingFlyer T·C 23:02, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I disagree strongly with this assessment as it also includes several paragraphs of significant content from his playing career in addition to the routine details of a transactional report. However, I am still at delete as explained in my above !vote. Frank Anchor 12:55, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - he had multiple articles about him in college, plus the 2025 article that Muboshgu found, which is not routine, so passes GNG. Rlendog (talk) 16:07, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of Nashville Vols Opening Day starting pitchers

List of Nashville Vols Opening Day starting pitchers (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I do not see multiple independent reliable sources which indicate that WP:LISTN is met. Without such, it seems this list also fails WP:GNG. It must be shown why this deserves to be a standalone list, as opposed to part of the team's article or merged into List of Nashville Vols seasons. Just because individual parts of the list can be cited, it does not mean that the sum total of the parts are notable as a list. Further, I found no previous discussion that this should be be split from the team's article. Flibirigit (talk) 15:26, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of Nashville Sounds Opening Day starting pitchers

List of Nashville Sounds Opening Day starting pitchers (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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WP:INDISCRIMINATE. No indication of meeting WP:NLIST. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:52, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of Scranton/Wilkes-Barre RailRiders Opening Day starting pitchers

List of Scranton/Wilkes-Barre RailRiders Opening Day starting pitchers (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I do not see multiple independent reliable sources which indicate that WP:LISTN is met. The only non-database source which lists opening day starters for the team is this story posted on a rain date. It seems this list also fails WP:GNG. It must be shown why this deserves to be a standalone list, as opposed to part of the team's article. Just because individual parts of the list can be cited, it does not mean that the sum total of the parts are notable as a list. Further, I found no previous discussion that this should be be split from the team's article. Flibirigit (talk) 02:23, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Flib, thanks for the feedback once again. I see your point. If there aren’t multiple independent sources showing notability beyond basic stats, and no prior consensus to split this off, then a standalone list may not be justified. I’d support merging it back into the team article unless stronger sourcing is found. TBJ10RH (talk) 02:34, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of Lehigh Valley IronPigs Opening Day starting pitchers

List of Lehigh Valley IronPigs Opening Day starting pitchers (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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WP:INDISCRIMINATE. No indication of meeting WP:NLIST. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 23:41, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Strong delete. This is pure trivia/fancruft about a minor league baseball club. No SIGCOV on the topic. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NLIST. Cbl62 (talk) 23:59, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • Keep. The list documents a recurring, specific role that’s consistently covered in local news and team media. As a yearly thing, Opening Day starters are a recognized part of a team’s season narrative. They attention every year from sources like MiLB.com, and team press releases. here’s nothing random or fancrufty about it if I am going to be honest with you. If the issue is sourcing, that can be fixed. I think there’s enough here to improve the article rather than delete it. Same thing applies with the other one.
    TBJ10RH (talk) 01:42, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    You would need multiple independent reliable sources providing in-depth coverage of the topic. Routine news coverage announcing who will be that year's opening-day pitcher does not suffice. Cbl62 (talk) 01:47, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    That can be easily fixable but validating the page for AFD is a bit too much in my opinion. TBJ10RH (talk) 01:49, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete/merge. There are no independent reliable sources in this list which indicate that WP:LISTN is met. In other words, it must be shown why this deserves to be a standalone list, as opposed to part of the team's article. Just because individual parts of the list can be cited, it does not mean that the sum total of the parts are notable as a list. Further, I found no previous discussion that this should be be split from the team's article. Flibirigit (talk) 01:55, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete A list of historic rosters may be relevant, but I don't see why opening day is significant. Reywas92Talk 02:07, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Listen, I get it. But, Opening Day starters hold special weight in baseball. Even at the minor league level, teams and media highlight who gets the ball to start the season. Usually the local papers, MiLB.com, and team press releases often call attention to it. It’s more than just a roster detail. If the concern is that the article doesn’t yet show why it's significant, that feels like something we can fix through edits. Maybe by adding brief context or citations. Not by removing the article entirely. This seems like a case where cleanup or improvement would serve Wikipedia better than deletion. TBJ10RH (talk) 02:19, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Note: MiLB.com and team press releases are not "independent" and have no bearing on whether the topic passes the GNG. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cbl62 (talk • contribs)
    In Major League Baseball, opening day starters are discussed frequently in independent sources. I cannot say the same for the minor leagues. Please note that coverage by teams, is not independent, nor considered reliable for encyclopedia purpose. Flibirigit (talk) 02:30, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I will note that going forward on the articles later. Thank you TBJ10RH (talk) 02:32, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 02:45, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete A list of who pitched for a minor league baseball team on the opening day of each of their seasons is totally pointless. This is an encyclopedia not a fan site. Anxioustoavoid (talk) 22:04, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - we are not a free web host for baseball trivia. There are lots of other places for that, but not a charity that does not take advertising. Bearian (talk) 07:01, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of Gwinnett Stripers Opening Day starting pitchers

List of Gwinnett Stripers Opening Day starting pitchers (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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WP:INDISCRIMINATE. No indication this passes WP:NLIST. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 23:39, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You would need multiple independent reliable sources providing in-depth coverage of the topic. Routine news coverage announcing who will be that year's opening-day pitcher does not suffice. Cbl62 (talk) 01:49, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That can be easily fixable but validating the page for AFD is a bit too much in my opinion. TBJ10RH (talk) 01:49, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If it's easly fixable, please provide the "Three best sources" (or even "two") that provide in depth coverage of the topic. Cbl62 (talk) 02:20, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete/merge. There are no independent reliable sources in this list which indicate that WP:LISTN is met. In other words, it must be shown why this deserves to be a standalone list, as opposed to part of the team's article. Just because individual parts of the list can be cited, it does not mean that the sum total of the parts are notable as a list. Further, I found no previous discussion that this should be be split from the team's article. Flibirigit (talk) 01:55, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I understand that the list may lack a few independent sources, and I thank you for the feedback, however Opening Day starters are a recurring, notable tradition in baseball that's routinely covered by teams and local media. The list reflects that tradition, not just a collection of facts. It can be improved with context and sourcing, but that’s an editing issue, not a reason to delete. Splitting it from the main article makes sense given its focus and the precedent from similar baseball lists. If you truly have some problems with the article, I can make some changes to add more independent sources that could be deemed reliable although I may need a specific list of those. TBJ10RH (talk) 02:25, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    In Major League Baseball, opening day starters are discussed frequently in independent sources. I cannot say the same for minor league. Please note that coverage by teams, is not independent, nor considered reliable for encyclopedia purpose. Flibirigit (talk) 02:29, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Will do, thank you Flib TBJ10RH (talk) 02:32, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete A list of who pitched for a minor league baseball team on the opening day of each of their seasons is totally pointless. This is an encyclopedia not a fan site. Anxioustoavoid (talk) 22:08, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - again, for the fans in the peanut gallery - we are not a free web host for baseball trivia. There are lots of other places for that, but not a charity that does not take advertising. Bearian (talk) 07:03, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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