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October 14

part of Julie Andrews

A recently featured article reminds me that Julie Andrews flashed her "boobies" on camera for the first time in S.O.B. (1981). I think she did it one more time soon after (in a flick that I probably did not see), but none of the titles in her filmography suggest anything to me. Can anyone confirm? —Antonissimo (talk) 01:15, 14 October 2026 (UTC)

"Darling Lili" was earlier and "Duet for One" was later. ~2026-46630-01 (talk) 11:00, 14 October 2026 (UTC)

October 19

Heavy metal band

Can anyone tell me if Temperance (band) is a famous band? Like if someone is fairly conversant with the heavy metal scene and goes to metal shows, would they likely have some clue of who Temperance was and maybe heard some tracks by them? They appear somewhere on the scale between obscure and major celebrity, but I'm asking where on the scale. Their most popular youtube vid is 8 years old and has around 6M views, and their official channel has 12.5k subscribers, which doesn't seem like a lot. Thanks. ~2026-55120-59 (talk) 17:53, 19 October 2026 (UTC)

I would rank them slightly above London (American band). They have been around, mainly the guitarist and bassist keeping the band going. They have albums. They've been supporting acts in tours. They've had their own tours. I'd say they are one meme video away from being a short-lived famous band that then becomes "Remember that band with that video?" a year later. ~2026-46630-01 (talk) 18:14, 19 October 2026 (UTC)
Thanks, that helped me fill in the picture. ~2026-55120-59 (talk) 07:19, 20 October 2026 (UTC)

October 21

voice actors

Hexed (2026 film) lists a lot of well known movie actors supplying the voices for this animated movie. The article even says the movie "stars so-and-so...". Is that some kind of Hollywood marketing? Is voice acting that big a deal? There will be non-English releases of the movie, with other actors doing the voices. Is their job comparable (in terms of interpreting the characters, etc.) to the English-language actors? Will they get similar billing in those markets?

Also, will a region 1 DVD generally have non-English audio available through a selection menu? Captions? Thanks.

~2026-55120-59 (talk) 08:07, 21 October 2026 (UTC)

Voice actors do their thing relatively early in the production of the movie. They aren't reading words to be put into the mouth of an existing animated character. They record their performance, and the character is animated to fit it - so they have quite an influence on the finished product. If the movie is subsequently dubbed into other languages (it may not be, some markets actually prefer subtitles) the people doing the dubbing are trying to conform to an existing performance. They'll be much lower status. in solidarity Chuntuk (talk) 09:41, 21 October 2026 (UTC)
Thanks. Question was inspired by the news that the Thai version of Hexed will have Thailand's sudden celebrity Nene Royal voicing the main character. ~2026-55120-59 (talk) 13:32, 21 October 2026 (UTC)
[Edit conflict} Although this is to some extent a matter of opinion, voice acting – whether for an animated film or for a radio dramatisation or the like – is a very skilled form of acting, because so much has to be conveyed by the voice alone: in the original recording the actor cannot know how or even if particular words will be rendered in a subsequent original animation, and in sound-only dramatisations none of them will be.
In dubbing for an existing animation, the voice actor must, in addition to providing the same quality of communication, synchronise their voice to the existing animation, which may even show mouth movements that they will have to try to avoid obviously clashing with. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-41275-62 (talk) 13:36, 21 October 2026 (UTC)
Note: AI is now being used to manipulate the mouths of animated and real-life faces to match the dubbed voice. It is acceptable with animations. It is still very creepy with live humans (even creepier when the main guy has unrealistically huge teeth). ~2026-46630-01 (talk) 16:16, 21 October 2026 (UTC)
Automated lip-synchronous animation has been effectively possible since at least 1995. At the time, the algorithms were not thought of as being AI. To apply this to human faces so as to escape the uncanny valley should be a matter of training that can be automated.  ​‑‑Lambiam 22:07, 21 October 2026 (UTC)
But can it fix the teeth? ~2026-46630-01 (talk) 10:57, 22 October 2026 (UTC)
If you find yourself haunted by huge teeth, you're apparently still in uncanny valley territory.  ​‑‑Lambiam 10:26, 24 October 2026 (UTC)
Is that some kind of Hollywood marketing? Is voice acting that big a deal?: It seems to have become a big deal. I've managed to avoid seeing any of the big-name movies with parts voiced by well-known actors, but they're clearly a cultural phenomenon. I watch a lot of TV quiz shows, and I often hear questions about which star voiced which part in which animated blockbuster. I'd be at a complete loss, but clearly the general public is assumed to be aware of these things. -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 20:07, 21 October 2026 (UTC)
Agreed. I have mostly been watching only animated films for some time, and have got over my surprise at how prominent many of the voice actors are. I also like watching YouTube videos of other people watching, reacting to and analysing animated and live-action films (particularly musicals), and many reactors are very interested in who the voice actors are, and enjoy recognising them from their voice before reaching the credits.
An aspect sometimes overlooked is that when voice acting for animation, the actors' real appearances don't matter. This enables many experienced older actors to "appear" in roles for which they would appear too old or otherwise inappropriate in live action. Consider for example Julie Andrews playing Gru's mother in four Despicable Me films. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-56420-06 (talk) 22:27, 21 October 2026 (UTC)

October 22

Joy Division discography

Any good referenced for Details for Joy Division discography#Live albums, Joy Division discography#Video albums and Joy Division discography#Other appearances, for helping me for FLC? VitorFriboquen :] (Talk) 19:19, 22 October 2026 (UTC)

October 23

Rock star on tour

Imagine you're a rock star doing big international stadium tours. The adoring crowds and the millions of dollars have to be nice, but my question is about the touring itself. Is that basically hell, being away from home for months at a time, constantly jetlagged, doing gruelling strings of shows maybe while sick, and all that? Kristin Starkey of Temperance (band) has a video about the stuff she takes on tour (travelling around Europe on the band bus) that includes a memory foam mattress, and I know a semi-successful jazz drummer who quit the business because being on the road all the time was too stressful, but I'm wondering about the big shots who have minions lugging their gear around. I also remember Northern Lights (Renaissance_song) also being about the loneliness of touring by plane, though it was by a UK band that performed a lot in America. So I understand someone wanting to be a rock star but specifically wanting to go on tour sounds a bit naive. Wondering if there are e.g. good rock memoirs or interviews or other info about this. Thanks. ~2026-56703-29 (talk) 20:07, 23 October 2026 (UTC)

See also A Hard Day's Night, "Super Trouper" —Antonissimo (talk) 03:28, 24 October 2026 (UTC)
And "I Can Do It with a Broken Heart". --~2026-56737-26 (talk) 07:22, 24 October 2026 (UTC)
Both Ian Hunter (Diary of a Rock'n'Roll Star) and Keith Richards (Life) have written well-received autobiographies that go into this. I haven't read Patti Smith's M Train but it covers the period of her life when she was a successful touring musician, and her decision to put a stop to that life, so I expect it would be of interest as well. Xuxl (talk) 14:05, 24 October 2026 (UTC)
Lamb of God's Killadelphia goes in depth about the more negative facets of touring, famously showcasing a fistfight between vocalist Randy Blythe and guitarist Mark Morton. ~2026-57035-75 (talk) 17:51, 25 October 2026 (UTC)

October 26

A super-abundance of singers

We Are The World - USA For Africa, 1985

So, I was happily playing Timeguessr and up pops this photo, with perhaps more stars in one place than you could ever shake a stick at... Even for a classical music fiend, I realised could identify many of them - but the Commons description is empty. Any takers? MinorProphet (talk) 15:20, 26 October 2026 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure you mean Paul Simon, not Neil Simon. Matt Deres (talk) 15:28, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
Argh, I knew I would get even the most famous names wrong. Mozart, Schmozart, hey... MinorProphet (talk) 19:32, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
I added some more, and will keep adding more as I go along. --Viennese Waltz 15:35, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
Gotta get back to work. The two guys on the far right third row are in Huey Lewis and the News band. That band played the instruments. I got the two guys I remember (back row), but not the two in front of them. ~2026-46630-01 (talk) 16:36, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
That is a photo shoot for We Are the World. The group of musicians required a name (legal stuff), so they named themselves "USA for Africa." ~2026-46630-01 (talk) 16:10, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
Wow, bowled over by the enthusiastic response, hardly surprising... Please continue. Does anyone know of any similar gathering of uncontested talent? MinorProphet (talk) 19:32, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
My opinion is a The Concert for Bangladesh is better than We Are the World. Bob Geldof appeared to want to do a series of these type things. He had Do They Know It's Christmas? and Band Aid. Following the Bangladesh concert, there was of course the Concert for George, but the all star performance of While My Guitar Gently Weeps from the 2004 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony is likely the best version of that song ever performed (thanks to Prince). I am also a bit partial to BBC's commercial version of Perfect Day. ~2026-46630-01 (talk) 19:42, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
Solvay conference 1927 - enjoy while you can... up for deletion
Great, thanks. I was more interested in other photos showing any similar gathering of well-known people. Thinking of eg Solvay Physics/Chemistry conference for example - picking only the names known to me - Schrödinger, Pauli, Heisenberg, Dirac, de Broglie, Bohr, Planck, Curie, Lorentz, Einstein... That sort of gathering. MinorProphet (talk) 20:12, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
How about Art Kane's A Great Day in Harlem? ~2026-48319-11 (talk) 23:33, 26 October 2026 (UTC)

List of artists

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I haven't even done the basic maths to ascertain whether the number of faces matches the above list. Best to remove known knowns from above list, leaving only unknown knowns. Or vice versa. Donald, where are you now? MinorProphet (talk) 19:32, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
Done. I used the list of people known to be there and other photos (such as the album cover) taken at the same time. I still can't tell which Pointer Sister is which and it is possible I got a Jackson wrong. ~2026-46630-01 (talk) 19:43, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
So, which exact ones are you uncertain of? (e.g. Row Z, Xth from left/right). Also, Fourth row, one from right - one quarter of a forehead and a wavy hairstyle - someone seems fairly certain. ;-) MinorProphet (talk) 20:31, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
I am unsure which Pointer Sister is which and I'm unsure if the guy in the front row is Randy Jackson or Marlon Jackson. Both were there, but only one was in the photo and in grainy black and white, they look the same. As for the forehead guy - "The News" (Huey Lewis's band) were all there and they are very clear in other photos takes of the same scene. It is better to use the album cover, where everyone is standing in the same position, but they are all in color, not grainy black and white. ~2026-46630-01 (talk) 11:21, 27 October 2026 (UTC)


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Anachronism on a VHS release: "Now That's What I Call Music" (1983 vs 1985/1986)

Hello everyone,

I have come across a VHS tape that appears to feature a chronological contradiction, and I am trying to understand if it is a misprint, a bootleg, or if I am missing some historical context about the companies involved.

The tape in question is the video companion to the very first Now That's What I Call Music compilation. The sleeve states that it was released on November 28, 1983 by The Video Music Collection (see: ).

However, according to historical records:

• The parent company, Video Collection International (VCI), was founded later, in October 1985.

• Its specialized division, The Video Music Collection, was not launched until May 1986.

How is it possible for a tape to bear the branding of a label that wouldn't exist for another two and a half years, alongside a release date that predates the parent company itself?

Could this be a later re-release of the 1983 program where the original production date was left unchanged on the artwork, or is there another explanation regarding how VCI back-cataloged Virgin/EMI material? Any insight into the history of this specific release would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you! DanielParoliere (talk) 18:32, 26 October 2026 (UTC)

Looking at Now That's What I Call Music!, it seems like there have been a bunch of releases over time. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 18:40, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
It is most likely that when VCI got distribution rights to Virgin/EMI material, all they did was change the copyright holder to their company name, retaining the original Virgin/EMI copyright date. That practice was not unusual then and isn't unusual now. If you were to find an actual 1983 release (from Virgin/EMI), you would find nearly identical packaging with the Virgin/EMI company on the copyright. ~2026-46630-01 (talk) 18:45, 26 October 2026 (UTC)
Discogs is a useful resource for this kind of question, as it usually has images of all the different releases. Here is the Virgin 1983 original, and here is the Video Music Collection 1986 reissue; they do indeed have very similar covers, just with different logos and slightly different layout. Adam Sampson (talk) 20:48, 27 October 2026 (UTC)

October 27

Are we sure that the Italian division of Video Collection International ever existed?

Hello everyone! I wanted to ask if the Italian division of Video Collection International ever existed in Italy, perhaps between the late 1980s and early 1990s, but perhaps only briefly. It could have been called something like "Video Collezione," "Video Collezione Italia," or simply "Video Collection Italia," given that there are also existed the Spanish division "Video Colección, S.A.," the French division "Vidéo Collection France," and the North American division "Strand Home Video" (or "Strand VCI Entertainment")? I ask because I can't find any VHS tapes published by the Italian division of Video Collection International anywhere online. Thanks! DanielParoliere (talk) 11:40, 27 October 2026 (UTC)

It's hard to prove a negative, but I don't see any reason to think that an Italian division existed -- looking through VCI's 1980s video releases, very few of them got a release in Italy at all, and those that did were released by other companies. Adam Sampson (talk) 21:15, 27 October 2026 (UTC)