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Edit warring past final, 4th warning about ARBPIA - ECR on Olive wood carving in Palestine.
Requested action: TBAN. 海盐沙冰 / aka irisChronomia / Talk / Uploads 05:48, 24 October 2026 (UTC)
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User Interfase, who is indefinitely topic banned from pages about Armenia, Azerbaijan, and related ethnic conflicts, broadly construed, has continued to violate their sanction by repeatedly editing these topics. It's not the first time either; as you can see, I had previously notified the blocking admin of Interfase's violations, and since then, Interfase has only continued the violations. KhndzorUtogh (talk) 11:51, 3 November 2026 (UTC)
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Transphobic altering of pronouns at Allison Montgomery, reporting here due to WP:ZT as a violation of WP:GENSEX. Requested action: Site Block. ғѳmɑɭʱɑυե (Any pronouns)ᵀᵃˡᵏ 05:07, 6 November 2026 (UTC)
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Seriously misleading edit summary and edit marked as minor: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Palestine&diff=prev&oldid=1384401039 IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 03:44, 8 November 2026 (UTC)
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Requested action: Revoke extendedconfirmed grant or perhaps just block and globally lock account.
Sean.hoyland (talk) 05:38, 13 November 2026 (UTC)
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I am reporting a pattern of coordinated editing between Zalaraz (talk · contribs) and Orientls (talk · contribs). This coordination is being used to tag-team AfDs and circumvent strict revert-rules on CTOP pages. To avoid redundant filing, I am keeping this report in Zalaraz name, but this concerns Orientls too. I have notified both about this filing.
While there is ample interaction data indicating coordination, the clearest proof is their interaction times on AfDs and article reverts.
Editing the same page within exactly 6 seconds of each other (Today Hong Kong AfD), formulating matching AfD rationales in under 60 seconds (World Herbal Encyclopedia), or tag-teaming to revert editors on CTOP articles within 60 seconds (Dhurandhar) shows a clear circumvention of dispute resolution and edit-warring policies.
Given the timestamp evidence of coordination being used to skew AfDs and circumvent edit-warring restrictions, I request administrators review this pattern and apply appropriate sanctions.
Disclosure:
— Longewal (talk) 22:11, 27 July 2026 (UTC)
←@Newyorkbrad: There's a request from UnpetitproleX (talk · contribs) here for a request for additional words to present additional evidence. Can we look at that before you decide what you want to do with this report? — Longewal (talk) 17:52, 2 October 2026 (UTC)
@Newslinger: My ArbCom statement is prepared, per your 30 October request. Let me know how to proceed. Thanks! — Longewal (talk) 19:29, 4 November 2026 (UTC)
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The difs here have been cited in a grossly misleading manner. Let me refute the cited diffs one by one:
Newslinger I am ready for that. Zalaraz (talk) 02:34, 12 November 2026 (UTC)
I had presented evidence (here and here) relating to TAGTEAM for the purpose of meatpuppeting and editwarring by some editors (likely part of a bigger group) including Zalaraz and Orientls. Zalaraz is continuously misrepresenting Black Kite, they did not "reject [my] evidence", but rather adviced me (here) to open a fresh report specific to this behaviour and these editors either here or on a different venue. Kautilya3 had initially sounded the alarm about tag teaming in that report, without naming names, but I had been observing this collusion for some time already, so I thought it pertinent to present evidence in that report.
@Red-tailed hawk and Tamzin: In addition to the above linked evidence in that report, I am adding the following:
All of the above is in addition to the collusion on Dhurandhar:The Revenge (see article timeline and article talk page timeline, see also evidence presented by me here) and on Sati (article timeline and article talk page timeline). I was going to report this (and more) evidence eventually, but now is as good a time as any. UnpetitproleX (talk) 02:55, 13 August 2026 (UTC)
Additional evidence by UnpetitproleX
@Newyorkbrad: Thanks for the extension, some of the evidence concerns edits made last week, so I believe it is recent and relevant. A simple checkuser is insufficient here also because of the number of editors part of this network. Meating becomes more obvious when the behaviour of this group/network is seen in tandem. Take for instance mutual overlap of these two with User:Accesscrawl, who was active between 2018–2020, then edited sporadically between 2021–2024, and became active again in May 2026:
This does not exclude the possibility of meatpuppetry and/or collusion of wiki, as it definitely made a convincing case to check". See also admin Ivanvector's comment there alleging off-wiki collusion and meatpuppetry by these two accounts. What are the odds that an editor (Orientls) with 2990 edits spread over twelve years (averaging about 250 edits per year, actual frequency here) is repeatedly suspected of meatpuppeting/off-wiki coordination with several editors? Also shows how longstanding this issue is and why a simple CU is insufficient here.
Something really fishy—in the realm of WP:MEAT—is going on here, and those of us who edit in the WP:CT/SA space are having to continuously deal with it. I believe a wider case is needed and this report should at least be referred to ARCA as suggested by Vanamonde93. --UnpetitproleX (talk) 19:03, 2 October 2026 (UTC)
Teaming is quite alluding or should I say obvious, below more recent findings clear any doubt if this is just mere collision of interests but a broader and coordinated off-wiki canvassing and ergo CU is unhelpful for this case.
Posting here as I have had some content-related interactions with both parties. The degree of overlap is suspicious, but I find it highly unlikely that these users are socks: if there is misconduct going on, and I don't say that there is, it is likely to be in the realm of off-wiki coordination. Establishing a pattern of that sort requires a volume of evidence AE is not very capable of handling, as evidenced by the length this has remained open. I recommend uninvolved administrators refer this to ARCA. Vanamonde93 (talk) 19:53, 30 September 2026 (UTC)
How novel that a four-year-old account is digging up and referring to investigations made eight years ago in this long-beset-by-political-feuding-and-sockpuppetry contentious topic? As it happens I was already reviewing some old emails referring to those 2018 investigations in the context of Doug Weller's passing - he was an arbitrator at the time, and I submitted a boatload of evidence and discussion about meatpuppetry to the committee then which was not acted on. Which is to say that I have no more to add.
There was an AE thread maybe a year and a half ago discussing sanctions in CT/SA where I suggested that everybody involved should be blocked. I'm not going to go looking for it but my opinion has not changed. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 19:29, 2 October 2026 (UTC)
I would like to bring attention to a similar pattern happening again, involving both user:Zalaraz and user:Orientls and potentially user:Wareon, user:ZDRX and user:Chronos.Zx.
user:Chronos.Zx diff, user:Wareon diff and user:Orientls diff and ZDRX diff all reverted the same line. This is very similar to the behaviour previously reported about this group at Dhurandhar: The Revenge here
Zalaraz came to the talk page discussion regarding the edit at 1:35 UTC yesterday, was adding comments to the discussion till 1:51 UTC and within 3 minutes of that he had reported me at WP:ANEW. I have been pblocked, which might be fair, but admins should be aware that the evidence they are looking into is not months old, it is an ongoing pattern. Ar1201u1 (talk) 18:21, 24 October 2026 (UTC)
@Newslinger: I have no off-wiki contact with Zalaraz, and the evidence as presented above is fabricated in order to establish that misleading point. For example, I edited Garba (dance) since 2025 but the report falsely asserts that I edited it first time in 2026.
This is not the first time I am being targeted with false charges of meatpuppetry. These false allegations date back to 2018.
You should also note that Zalaraz is now being accused by multiple editors of being a meatpuppet IrishChronomia of and PhilKnight.
Why? Because it is the mentality of problematic editors of this area to accuse their opponents of meatpuppetry since they have no other way to get rid of them.
If editing the same article is all we have for establishing meatpuppetry, then the evidence is far more striking for UnpetitproleX and Longewal as already shown above. Longewal and Unpetitprolex are following each other since Longewal registered on September 2025. Interaction tool speaks volumes. Would you like to take action about them too should I provide evidence about their similar edits?
Also pinged Red-tailed hawk, The Bushranger Izno and Newyorkbrad. Orientls (talk) 14:43, 30 October 2026 (UTC)
@Newslinger: You mention SPI as the venue, while other past AE reports have concluded the SPI to be appropriate venue for these allegations. Arbcom has not taken interest as Ivanvector has already indicated. Worse is that nobody has indicated that they have off-wiki evidence to prove the off-wiki coordination. Mere meatpuppetry allegations are rampant in this area.
Allowing the use of AE as substitute for SPI would set a bad precedent and effectively eliminate the importance of SPI. Until now, editors are asked to get over the outcome of SPI, and their inability to accept the rejection of their evidence, such as in this case (see earlier rejection by Black Kite cited above) results in blocks, like the one here issued by Ivanvector in 2025.
This report has already consumed 3 months. I would request rejection of this report, because it is nothing more than a desperate effort to get rid of opponent in content dispute. Orientls (talk) 10:13, 31 October 2026 (UTC)
Newslinger, thanks for recommending WP:ARCA. I volunteer to file a case at ARCA, based on the comments I made at an earlier AE case. I will wait for the participants to prepare their preliminary statements, as you recommended. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 13:41, 1 November 2026 (UTC)
While there is ample interaction data indicating coordinationneed to be followed with explanations regarding the coordination itself, because it's a bit of work on the back-end to figure out exactly what you mean by this. Two people merely taking an interest in the same article, even if they are adding similar data, is not WP:TAGTEAMing; there are other things about these accounts, however, that make me suspect that it's more than mere coincidence. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 16:19, 9 August 2026 (UTC)
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Filing this report after getting recommended above. The user has carried out many violations of WP:ECR while editing about caste and Indian military history as non-ECP editor:
He has also significantly editing about the movies that are all about Indian military history.
There are many such ECR violations that have helped the user gain ECP by 12 October.
Also take a look at gaming check report. I earlier detailed that in the quick enforcement request. Zalaraz (talk) 05:03, 18 October 2026 (UTC)
However, i was told that even that is frowned upon. so I stopped doing that too" completely contradicts the evidence that you were warned on 10 October yet you continued editing Indian military history (diffs cited above). You havent addressed the gaming concerns. Zalaraz (talk) 02:38, 12 November 2026 (UTC)
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This is with reference to your message. you would notice that all my edits were minimal and totally non disruptive. i, in good faith, thought that at least adding which actor played the part in a movie is not actually military history. However, i was told that even that is frowned upon. so I stopped doing that too and shifted to small edits on villages details only till i reached extended editor part. after that i assumed i can edit, even after that my edits were very small and completely non disruptive.
you may kindly go through my edits and let me know what you folks think or decide. i am not at all interested in prolonged or bitter debates over this. my only interest is to contribute to wikipedia in a completely non controversiaol manner and my area of interest remains India and Indian history. Thanks. Mundhalia746 (talk) 17:39, 5 November 2026 (UTC)
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As stated in the thread, I wasn't going to report this and, indeed, would not have, if it weren't for the inflammatory This entire situation is occurring in the context of Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#RFC - Indian cinema CTOP, which falls under WP:CT/SA: howoever, the conversation has gotten heated and I believe some admin assistance would be helpful in general.
Discussion concerning AthanelarStatements must be made in separate sections. They may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs, except by permission of a reviewing administrator. Statement by AthanelarI have no idea what to say here. It's patently ridiculous to characterise my initial comment as "Referring to the Telugu people by ethnic stereotypes". My initial comment was a lengthy explanation of the incredible passion which manifests among Telugu cinema fans. I clarified at the end that I'm aware that Telugu people are considered (among Indian cinema fans more generally) to be particularly extreme in their degree of passion because I'm not familiar enough with other regional Indian cinema fanbases to comment on those and I didn't want to imply that the statement applies to all Indian cinema fans, because it doesn't. If anything, the whole point of my comment was to avoid implying an ethnic stereotype. I am intimately familiar with the Telugu cinema industry and its fans and I'm insulted that someone witb no connection to that community would be so presumptuous to insist that what I said was an offensive ethnic stereotype. GLL has no idea of the extent of my connection to the community I was discussing, and to insist from a complete outsider's perspective that I was engaging in offensive ethnic stereotyping is, again, presumptuous and a completely unfair aspersion. Athanelar (talk) 23:27, 28 October 2026 (UTC) (response to the Bushranger) I get what you're saying, but it's hard not to feel insulted when I'm feeling not just like the grandmother being told to suck eggs, but the grandmother who's being taught to suck eggs in a condescending, one-syllable-at-a-time voice despite my hearing being just fine. I also dispute the idea that I made any sort of "nationalist attack." My reference of my "connections to the community" are not intended as a "don't you know who I am?" just that I have the requisite knowledge to know I wasn't engaging in anything that any Telugu person would take as an ethnic stereotype, anymore than "Brits love tea" or "Americans love football" is an ethnic stereotype. Athanelar (talk) 23:44, 28 October 2026 (UTC)
Statement by ChompyTheGogoatThis is patently absurd. The remarks were clearly referring to people who are specifically involved with and passionate about Telugu cinema within a larger topic area that's racially charged, and nothing about them was remotely stereotypical or derogatory. This filing is far more extremist than any comments in the ongoing conversation (and further illustrates why CTOP designation is necessary). Admins should know a frivolous report when they see one. ChompyTheGogoat [ Bleat | Munched ] 23:53, 28 October 2026 (UTC)
Statement by F0malhaut42Athanelar stated they were connected to the Telugu film industry, and they are clearly offended by GreenLipstickLesbian's characterisation of them as racist. They were contributing to the discussion in a well-mannered and civil fashion prior to GreenLipstickLesbian's comment, but their manner shifted to uncivil battleground behaviour after GreenLipstickLesbian's comment. Due to their comment here, I am inclined to believe that this was a kneejerk reaction to an uninformed accusation of racism, which is of course understandable, but they followed this by taking their anger out on GreenLipstickLesbian and myself in a hostile and accusatory manner, including accusing me of racism, accusing GreenLipstickLesbian of pearl-clutching and having an "amerocentric" worldview, and throwing whataboutisms and aspersions around in general. I do feel that this problem is entirely the result of GreenLipstickLesbian and myself misunderstanding Athanelar's statement, but this does not excuse Athanelar's actions. From what I have seen, it appears that Athanelar is under a large amount of stress right now (I am notoriously unreliable at gauging emotions, so this should be taken with a grain of salt) and felt that they were attacked, and from this point the Fight-or-flight response kicked in and they decided to fight, and this is what lead them to respond to what they assumed to be accusations with other accusations. Their behaviour here is still unacceptable, of course, but these are mitigating circumstances, and GreenLipstickLesbian cast aspersions as well (I'm probably going to be accused of also casting aspersions here and being holier-than-thou towards GreenLipstickLesbian, so I want to clarify: my argument was not that Athanelar was being racist, it was that they made a poor choice of words). With all of this in mind, it is my opinion that this situation is the result of GreenLipstickLesbian and myself misunderstanding Athanelar and Athanelar in turn misunderstanding GreenLipstickLesbian and myself. ғѳmɑɭʱɑυե (Any pronouns)ᵀᵃˡᵏ 06:40, 29 October 2026 (UTC) Statement by SennecasterThese people are incredibly burned out and frustrated. I get that. I nearly blew up at an arb in private over AE a month ago because it's been so understaffed. I have nearly blown up at people over disagreements at CCI. Point is, nearly. I knew to walk away before I said something uncivil or lost the plot completely. You don't get to be uncivil just because you're productive. I expect this kind of lashing out from a user with 200 edits getting indeffed for ECR violations. I don't expect it from someone with thousands of edits. If you think this is appropriate to say to anyone onwiki ever, no matter their edit count, how pissed off you are at them or in general, or how much they've wronged you, then you no longer are capable of contributing here in a productive fashion. I'd also appreciate if a word count limit of some kind could be flatly applied to the discussion. Sennecaster (Chat) 05:59, 29 October 2026 (UTC) Statement by VanamondeNobody is covering themselves with glory here. I don't know why we're having anthropological discussions about Telugu film fans in the first place: NOTFORUM applies. I don't know why this was dragged to AE, because the widespread adoration for their film industry among Telugu film fans is a fact, not a stereotype, and it's obviously not applicable to all Telugu-speaking people, who are a linguistic group constructed by state lines out of multiple ethnicities. I don't know why, when an allegation of stereotyping was made, it was not addressed by pointing out what I just did, and was instead escalated into claims of western-centric worldviews and virtue signalling. This is a storm in a teacup, everyone needs to back down and return to discussing whether ECR is reasonable. Vanamonde93 (talk) 15:38, 29 October 2026 (UTC)
Statement by ABx11I'm finding this whole discussion, including this arb case, utterly ridiculous to say the least. I don't think it's appropriate for a user with many thousands of edits and years of experience (GLL) to be making accusations like this. This whole "arb case" stems from a clear misunderstanding. And good grief, save me the Statement by CoffeeCrumbsI don't think anything sterner than a minnow-slap is appropriate here. I'm sorry, while I'm sensitive to ethnic stereotyping, I saw the initial comment made in real time, and I have a hard time believing anyone could reasonably think, in the context it was presented, that it was literally intended to be an ethnic slur. Just having this conversation already seems a more extensive sanction than Athanelar deserves for not writing out "particularly motivated connoisseurs of cinema filmed in the Telegu language that displays the typical milieu that currently dominates this genre" 50 times. And I have no doubt that GLL's objections come from a place of good faith as well. Continuing this for no good purpose only keeps the heat dialed up longer, practically ensuring more sniping back and forth. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 22:32, 29 October 2026 (UTC) Statement by (username)Result concerning Athanelar
Honestly I find Athanelar's reaction to GLL's response to be more concerning than the initial comment. Being concerned about ethnic stereotyping is not something to disparage, even if you believe it to be misguided, and turning around and making a nationalist attack on the person raising concerns is absolutely misguided. Athanelar, it doesn't matter if it's a
I'm thinking an informal warning to both editors to try to assume good faith and avoid rhetoric in CT discussions, and close with no formal action? Saying "as far as South Asian cinema superfans go the Telugus are probably the most extreme of the bunch" is probably not ideal, but calling that assertion stereotyping instead of simpy sincerely questioning it as possibly hyperbolic (which is all that really matters in a discussion of whether or not to increase protection levels in an entire category)...meh. Responding to the assertion of stereotyping with 'pearl-clutching' and 'Amerocentric' rather than simply engaging sincerely, also not helpful. You're in a CT. It's best to interact with others there who disagree with you in a way that shows you understand what working in a CT means. Valereee (talk) 16:11, 29 October 2026 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Contentious topics/South Asia
Ramesshhh's account is currently not extended confirmed, so they should not be editing topics related to South Asia. As of right now, they have 26 edits recorded.
I'm sorry if I've missed any necessary steps by coming to AE with this; it's my first time dealing with a CTOP violation.
Chess enjoyer has let me know that I've been misunderstanding WP:CTOP/SA; I thought all topics regarding history, ethnicity, social groups, etc. were under the ECR restriction, but in fact only the topics of caste and Indian military history are. Since the edits in question are about the history of a Brahmin group (and whether or not they are related to people in Nepal with the same surname), I think it's possible that this still counts as violating this restriction, but I'm no longer very sure. I'd love it if a more informed editor than me could take a look.
If it turns out I was in the wrong, I apologise unreservedly. Suðurhafsljósæta (talk) 14:27, 30 October 2026 (UTC)
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It is my humble clarification that My intention was just to improve the the information based on archaelogical,historical and cultural facts.I tried to find the authentic sources and supply the relevant information for which I also cited the relevant sources too.My intention was just to expand the accuracy of the knowledge which was present and cover greater dimensions rather any disruptive activity.
But still If my activities did anything wrong I sicerely apologise for it.I will excercise greater caution in the future — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ramesshhh (talk • contribs) 13:07, 30 October 2026 (UTC)
I HAVE UNDERSTOOD MY EARLIER MISTAKE WHICH HAS LED TO THIS ISSUE.I SINCERELY APOLOGISE FOR THAT.
ALSO I PROMISE I WILL NOT EDIT CONTENTIOUS ISSUES LIKE CASTE IN THE FUTURE UNTIL I HAVE THE REQUIRED ELIGIBILITY TO DO SO IN FUTURE. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ramesshhh (talk • contribs) 02:23, 1 November 2026 (UTC)
@Suðurhafsljósæta, only two subtopics (Indian military history and castes) of South Asia are under the extended confirmed restriction, not the entire region. I suggest you recheck your diffs to make sure they are actual ECR violations. Chess enjoyer (talk) 14:12, 30 October 2026 (UTC)
I would advise against a logged warning here. The issue is plainly that Ramesshhh is unable to understand that they are forbidden, period, from editing about caste. Until they understand it there is no purpose to writing that fact down in a different place. They need to undertake to edit elsewhere. If they do, a warning isn't needed. If they don't, a block is necessary. Vanamonde93 (talk) 19:35, 31 October 2026 (UTC)
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This dispute arises from standard editorial maintenance on {{Authoritarianism during the Trump presidencies sidebar}} and associated pages within this contentious topic.
After I removed several tangential links that weren't related enough under WP:NAVBOX, I opened a thread on the template to explain what I was doing. Viriditas reverted my changes with an edit summary of "needs discussion", but instead of discussing the changes, they mainly focused on me personally for several days. They also repeatedly assumed bad faith, and made personal attacks and aspersions at me across multiple talk pages (the diffs above).
I notified the user on their talk page asking them to focus on content, stop casting aspersions, and adhere to WP:NPA. They reverted the message with the edit summary "Untrue". Given the persistent personal commentary in a contentious topic, and the complete refusal to acknowledge the issue, I am requesting administrator intervention. Bookaddictt (talk) 12:39, 30 October 2026 (UTC)
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Vanamonde93: I am aware that my discussions with Bookaddictt were less than ideal. I should have moved up to the higher levels of Graham's hierarchy of disagreement and remained there, but I failed to do so. I apologize to both Bookaddictt and Jweiss11 for my failure to treat their valuable arguments with the consideration and respect they deserved. These kinds of disagreements can serve as a helpful check on the prevailing status quo of a topic, which can often be unduly influenced by local consensus. They can also, when needed, help improve the topic by providing balance. Thus, the importance of these disparate POVs cannot be underestimated. In spite of my personal weakness, I will endeavor to remain civil and refrain from this behavior in the future so that article improvement can proceed unhindered in the spirit of true collaboration, where people with differing opinions can work constructively together. Viriditas (talk) 22:16, 4 November 2026 (UTC)
Valereee: Going forward, in the heat of debate, I'll remove any accusations of bad faith or personal remarks from my comments if they arise. I'll also step away for a bit and reread my comments before submitting them. You're right to note that such remarks undermine my arguments. Viriditas (talk) 23:10, 10 November 2026 (UTC)
I've also been involved in the discussions regarding Template:Authoritarianism during the Trump presidencies sidebar and have some history of interaction with Viriditas going back a few years. As I said at that template's talk page, this sidebar is becoming an editorial coatrack, largely (or perhaps entirely) due to the editing of Viriditas and Alexandraaaacs1989, that latter I now see was reported at WP:ANI just yesterday for similar behavior. Another editor also pointed out the coatrack issue with the sidebar a few months ago at its talk page. I've agreed with the general thrust of Bookaddictt's comments there, and have found them to sensible and reflective of relevant policy.
Viriditas has a long history contentious editing to advance a political viewpoint in violation of NPOV (, , ) as well as hostility and assumption of bad faith toward other editors , , . Viriditas is a skilled editor who is capable of creating high-quality content, but his activity here on Wikipedia has done a great deal to degrade collegiality among the community and the objectivity and balance of the encyclopedia. Jweiss11 (talk) 16:07, 30 October 2026 (UTC)
This complaint is AI generated. Note the WP:AIPLACEHOLDER with Date Explanation
which links to https://difflink1/
. Athanelar (talk) 18:42, 30 October 2026 (UTC)
This entire issue, about what to include or exclude in this and related templates, has been blowing up over multiple drama boards over the past week. I think a good way for admins to understand this AE filing is to read Template talk:Authoritarianism during the Trump presidencies sidebar#Removal of Links from top to bottom. You'll see that I was there from the start. I kept what I said polite, but I felt from the get-go that Bookaddictt was removing content in a non-NPOV way that came across as pushing a pro-Trump POV by selectively removing anything that might be seen as reflecting badly on Trump, and justifying it as not well-enough sourced in a very word-literal way. In this context, I find the evidence presented by Jweiss11 unconvincing. I do think that the first diff presented by Bookaddictt (labeled as about deliberate bad faith, dishonesty, and electioneering) was going too far on Viriditas' part. The two diffs after that aren't optimal, but when read without the framing here, are in a grayer zone: "I've noticed that some readers like yourself are unable to read material in a way that refers to other topics (in this case authoritarianism) without overt, explicit language": is that a condescending remark about reading comprehension (taken literally, yes), or (taken in the context of the discussion) saying the same thing I just said here, about word-literal, but written carelessly? --Tryptofish (talk) 20:35, 30 October 2026 (UTC)
I don't know how relevant this is ultimately but, as it was mentioned above in this case it should probably be on-record somehow, the filer of the ANI filing against Alexandraaacs1989 has withdrawn their complaint. Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#c-EducatedRedneck-20261102133500-WP:BLUDGEON,_WP:SYNTH,_WP:NPA,_and_WP:TE_by_User:Alexandraaaacs1989_on_Third_wav Simonm223 (talk) 20:57, 3 November 2026 (UTC)
Without consensus, reasonable links should not be removed. I checked the links, and they seem reasonable. Unless such consensus was already achieved, "needs discussion" should be reasonable. Also, here is a Wikilink to the "needs discussion" edit you mentioned: Special:Diff/1381282056, and "Untrue": Special:Diff/1382781198 Unsurprising knock knock? who's there? 📝 👥 19:40, 9 November 2026 (UTC)
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Asilvering, it is not possible that إيان was unaware of the history of the term Zio, since some material in the article covering this history was written by them.꧁Mangroves꧂ 03:37, 31 October 2026 (UTC)
إيان, for the record, did not use the slur Zio. He edited material about the word Zio in articlespace to state that the term's status as a slur, and as antisemitic, is conditional—thus implying (and stating as much explicitly in his edit summaries) that the word is not necessarily antisemitic.
This isn't problematic because it shows that إيان believes the status of Zio as an antisemitic slur is conditional, which he has a right to believe. It is problematic because he's editing from his own reasoning, in open disagreement with all of the sources. Zero reliable sources frame the term as anything but an antisemitic slur—they don't hedge it with a condition about its use; Zio is, in the view of the literature, an antisemitic slur, point blank. إيان did not even try to argue that sources say the term's antisemitic quality is conditional; he instead argued (and continues to argue, on Asilvering's Talk) that the article's prose ought to say that word Zio is not necessarily antisemitic, because in إيان's estimation, it isn't. It's not even an attempt to right great wrongs, which other commenters have brought examples of, because RGW-ing requires at least an acknowledgment of the perspective of the sources (in order to criticize it). إيان instead is not even glancing at sources to make his case: his edit is openly based on only his own personal interpretation and reasoning on the subject. This is not even pretending to be encyclopedic editing. ꧁Mangroves꧂ 20:46, 1 November 2026 (UTC)
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Ok, that is pretty straightforwardly antisemitic
please carefully explain (in your own words, not any mischaracterizations from Zanahary/Mangrove or any parroted from the ADL and company) because that is an smear is baseless and an outrageous accusation to make without specific, concrete evidence. إيان (talk) 04:05, 31 October 2026 (UTC)
thathere was ambiguous; I assumed the statement was response in general and endorsement of the mischaracterizations and assemblage of diffs—and it should be very transparent that this is a contrived and opportunistic case being leveled against me by an editor who appears to find the content of my contributions quite inconvenient, over and over. I do not see where they have consulted with me before dragging me to AE, and I have addressed this issue here before. It should be closed expeditiously given the context—perhaps Zanahary/Mangroves was not aware—including Trust and Safety concerns (more on this at WP:Village Pump discussion and WP:RS/N).
using this word as though it was created as a casual shortening of the word "Zionist"i.e. as an abbreviation for Zionist, even if used derisively or pejoratively toward Zionists qua Zionists, is something else. إيان (talk) 18:06, 31 October 2026 (UTC)
theleekycauldron: I would like your assurance that as an administrator you are taking into full consideration that I am currently being targeted and smeared by an advocacy organization with hundreds of millions of dollars in assets and that is dedicated to defending a state conducting a genocide, and that you are considering all relevant Trust and Safety responsibilities and implications.
As for your characterizations and conclusions, I find them to be unfair, misrepresentative of my 18,000+ edits, and very disappointing. I find it hard to believe that I am being criticized for engaging in discussion, for supporting and arguing my points. "Battle-ground" is the culture of the topic area, unfortunately, and it is ridiculous to blame it on me and tone-police me like this when I have been exceedingly patient and magnanimous with editors who have stalked and harassed me. I have no doubt that some find my contributions in the topic area to be extremely inconvenient, but they are of vital importance and of great value to the encyclopedia.إيان (talk) 22:32, 31 October 2026 (UTC)
[Response to The Bushranger's comment:]
blatant use of slursWhere? I have always been able to distinguish between Jews and Zionism—they are distinct from each other. This gaslighting is unbelievable. إيان (talk) 23:29, 31 October 2026 (UTC)
[Response to Extraordinary Writ's comment:]
uncivilas Bushranger’s struck comment above? Just wondering. إيان (talk) 00:42, 1 November 2026 (UTC)
Mangroves, could you describe the means of WP:Dispute resolution you pursued before seeking arbitration as a last resort? Could you also clarify if you were aware of the ADL report at all at the time of filing? If you weren't, would you still have chosen to file at this time had you been aware? إيان (talk) 19:17, 4 November 2026 (UTC)
Some additional links to comtextualize behavior wikipedia:No original research/Noticeboard/Archive 55#c-إيان-20260331183800-concerns about RfC: "the Ashkenazim originate from the Israelites and Hebrews of إيان is pushing for the khazar conspiracy theory here back in march. User:Bluethricecreamman (Talk·Contribs) 17:38, 31 October 2026 (UTC)
I've had some similarly unpleasant interactions with this editor on some other related pages. At Macklemore–Ed Sheeran tour controversy, I made this edit: , and started this discussion: . إيان reverted me: – note the "No equivocation necessary" in the edit summary – and I subsequently crafted neutral language that avoided the problem of asserting something controversial in Wikipedia's voice, and simply focused on what the musician said: . On the talk page, he similarly lectured me with "There will be no equivocation": , . He then referred to sources citing "supporters of Israel" as having "meritless opinions": .
Because it was mentioned in that discussion, I went to see what Palestinian genocide allegations said. I observed that a now globally-banned user had made this edit there: , which I reverted: . إيان undid my edit: , with an edit summary that justified the partial revert by my being the editor who made the edit, referring back to the dispute at the other page. Note also his just-previous edit that treats Zionism disparagingly: . (I then adjusted the language to avoid calling it a consensus: .) I don't think my edits were "equivocating", just editing for NPOV, whereas إيان seems to me to be engaging in WP:RGW. --Tryptofish (talk) 20:43, 31 October 2026 (UTC)
At Talk:October 7 attacks, I do think that إيان appears to be trying to WP:RGW, when they seem to imply that not including the word blockade in the first sentence of the article is discriminating against Palestinians: In other articles on similar instances of violence from an oppressed group at an oppressor group, such as Nat Turner's Rebellion or the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising the oppression and power dynamics are signaled in the first sentence; we must not create an exception to obfuscate through omission here.
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This comes after they created the RFC after being primarily opposed on the talk page about keeping blockaded in the first sentence, saying that the removal would require an RfC..
In the middle of RfC, with no consensus reached for the blockade to mentioned in the first sentence, إيان substantially changed the first paragraph including references of Israel tightening its blockade in the first paragraph and a new mention of Gaza Genocide in the first paragraph (despite neither being explicitly discussed a single time in the actual article) .
All of these three things, in culmination, feels like WP:POVPUSH. EaglesFan37 (talk) 01:07, 1 November 2026 (UTC)
إيان is actually quite a good editor in this topic area. Unfortunately it's true that they do not always meet the strict civility requirements of the topic area and so I can't really argue against them being topic banned, although I do think that more is expected of editors in this topic area than is really reasonable.
It's actually very difficult to be professional and polite while engaging with POV pushers, which is very common in the topic area. It is extremely rare for anyone to be topic banned for violating competence is required or sealioning and the like, but that is not because these policies are rarely violated - such behaviour is actually a daily problem in the topic area but since it's too hard to prove it is more or less de facto allowed and tolerated on Wikipedia.
I'd like to add that إيان is in fact capable of maintaining their composure, as can be seen in the way they handled the coordinated pro-Israel sockpuppet attack at the Jerusalem Day article. There إيان dealt with co-ordinated tag team edit warring while refraining from edit warring themself; they didn't violate civility requirements and assumed good faith, though they would have known they were dealing with POV pushers of the worst kind. They spent a lot of time and effort to do things right even though that entire process must have been extremely frustrating and was really just a huge waste of their time and effort given that there was no legitimate opposition to إيان's position, with 100% of the editors who argued against إيان and who voted oppose in their RfC being bad faith actors using sock accounts.
I hope that if إيان is topic banned that any appeal they may make in the future will be given significant consideration; they're definitely a net positive to the encyclopedia. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 02:33, 1 November 2026 (UTC)
The core issue here is إيان combative and hostile behaviour. Even after it was pointed out at Lead, they claim they cannot understand how they are being combative and are, in fact, fascinated
by that characterisation.
If إيان can provide links to any past comments by Mangroves that were uncivil toward them, administrators can take that into consideration when weighing action against them.
Per IOHANNVSVERVS, إيان is a net-positive editor. However, if إيان cannot acknowledge their behavior and promise to do better, then some sort of action against them is warranted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SideEffect (talk • contribs) 06:11, 1 November 2026 (UTC)
It would be appreciated if Bushranger could substantiate "blatant use of slurs", as none of that appears in the evidence here, and it seems like a fairly major aspersion for an admin to be leveling? Parabolist (talk) 20:28, 1 November 2026 (UTC)
There seems to be rough agreement the above conduct is sanction-worthy and that they're potentially a net positive. Why not just do escalating temporary tbans, in the same vein as we do escalating temporary blocks to correct behaviour? The norm of "logged warning, next step indef tban" (which are typically very difficult to get lifted) is extreme, and seems to be the cause of a lot of hand-wringing at AE. Sure, that works for some cases, but not for good-faith regulars who cross the line(s) on occasion Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 00:18, 2 November 2026 (UTC)
Im going to slice thinly a bit here and say that zio isnt necessarily an antisemitic slur, but it is always a perjorative. A Christian Zionist could be called a zio, and many have. In fact, I would say it is mainly an ideological slur, I suppose akin to calling someone a pinko, etc, altho certainly with much stronger invective intent. The descent of modern usage from Dukes is unclear; it is an intuitive shortening mad derisive. All said, there is no positive use of the term, as there is with...literally, Zionist. One can call someone a Zionist and mean it positively, or negatively. Jew also fits this. Zio does not. I cant see how obfuscating that in an article is unintentional.
The characterization that it is difficult to be polite and civil in an area full of POV pushers (very true on both "sides") is simply incorrect. Most editors do so every day, others walk away. And the fact that إيان is able to engage properly, demonstrates how glaring it is not to; it mitigates the behavior not at all. I am also curious if إيان is insinuating that the mention in the ADL report immunizes them from any appraisal of their actions.
I would also like to add this diff of 2026 July 12 where إيان inserted that "Marg bar Amrika" can also mean "down with America", which was not present in the source cited. Clearly not learning from the logged warning, some sort of topic ban appears in order, but this would indicate an issue somewhat outside of PIA as well, so perhaps include Iranian politics post-1979. ← Metallurgist (talk) 01:46, 2 November 2026 (UTC)
My position on this is similar to that of IOHANNVSVERVS. إيان is a net positive for the project. If they aren't always civil, that's regrettable and should be corrected, but every day I see much worse behavior. It deserves a formal warning but doesn't justify a topic-ban.
One extra thing I'd like to say is that Metallurist is correct that zio is a perjorative, but not necessarily antisemitic. For example, to argue that calling a non-Jew a zio is antisemitic you have to take the perilous route of identifying Israel with Jews---an identification which is a much more fertile source of antisemitism. But, semantics aside, it is startling to read people commenting here as if إيان called someone a zio, which never happened. In fact, no cogent argument has been presented that إيان made any antisemitic statement at all. Zerotalk 11:47, 2 November 2026 (UTC)
Regarding Samuelshraga's comments: I looked at all of the (too many) sources for the second diff and all of them match إيان's text "antisemitic slur ... when used as a proxy to refer to Jews". They don't even address other uses, so it isn't true that إيان violated the sources. I also looked at this diff that is supposed to prove something and found that it is simple and factual. The first phase of the Hamas attack was to break through the barriers that Israel had erected around the Gaza Strip. Everyone knows that, so why not write it? As for "Down with America", it is a common translation of "Marg bar Amrika" and some argue that it is the correct translation. All of these are no more than points for talk-page discussion and they don't illustrate anything negative about إيان. Zerotalk 06:34, 3 November 2026 (UTC)
I personally think the focus on civility is not the main issue here. The previous AE closed with an admin saying: The complaint about SYNTH has been resolved with إيان committing to do better, and since there has been no report of continued violations we can take them at their word.
In this complaint, we have seen two instances that I think are relevant to that:
ce) had been
sloppybut immediately pivoted to defending the substance of a different edit I hadn’t asked about, and didn’t address the substance of this one.
The problem with إيان is not just about civility. The continued violations of SYNTH/OR in service of a particular POV is the main problem. Samuelshraga (talk) 15:39, 2 November 2026 (UTC)
to remain civil, assume good faith of other editors, and avoid inflammatory remarks, and I think the answer to that is pretty clearly no, basically per theleekycauldron. The discussions linked in this thread show that إيان approaches disputes in an escalatory and BATTLEGROUNDish fashion that is not respectful of other editors or conducive to reaching consensus, and I don't think it's "tone-polic[ing]" to say that that's not consistent with the expectations for editing a contentious topic. Given the previous warning, I support a topic ban. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 00:09, 1 November 2026 (UTC)
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Almost 3 years have been past since I was topic banned from editing articles about Azerbaijan and Armenia. Almost 2 years I did not edit any article on these topics and already forget about this topic ban. Within last and this year I have created just too articles on Azerbaijani topic and did minor edits in few articles. There was no any issues with my edits within these 3 years, and I think that my edits can be excused as per WP:IAR as they improved Wikipedia and were constructive. Also they demonstrate that I can edit articles related to Azerbaijan with no any issues. Based on above I ask to lift topic ban from me. Thanks in advance.
I have glanced through Interfase's contributions, and it appears they have already unsuccessfully attempted to appeal their topic ban three times , , , violating it regardless after each. The last two appeals were made directly to the sanctioning admin, who told them:
Since the last appeal, it's been two years; Interfase has made less than 100 edits, most of which are topic-ban violations themselves. KhndzorUtogh (talk) 16:56, 4 November 2026 (UTC)
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I think I count as uninvolved in that my only engagement with Interfase I'm aware of was suggesting they should appeal their tban rather than depending on WP:IAR. My thoughts kind of link back to a critique of Wikipedia and our handling of certain contentious topics that it's very easy for an editor who is trans, or who is Israeli, Palestinian, Indian, Pakistani, Armenian or Azerbaijani to find their whole identity treated as a contentious topic and to then have a lot of difficulty editing things that aren't really related to any locus of former conflict on the basis that their identity itself is contentious. I looked at Interfase's edit history and there were some problems in 2023 where they wanted to argue certain edits were outside the scope of their topic ban that were pretty obviously within that scope.
But after that initial rough patch it does honestly look like their story checks out. Their edits from 2024 onward have mostly focused on Central-Asian athletes and academics including many who were Azerbaijani. However, digging into one example of a topic-ban-breaking BLP what we see is the creation and then collaborative revision of a BLP that, aside from the prickly little detail of the topic ban, is precisely the sort of comportment we would expect in BLP. I wasn't privy to why Interfase was topic banned. However I would suggest that, in light of the evidence I can see, the ban should either be lifted or substantially narrowed to cover only conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan so that they can contribute good work on Azerbaijani academics and athletes without having to lean on WP:IAR as a crutch. Simonm223 (talk) 17:00, 4 November 2026 (UTC)
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twist the information here until it has a very pro-Zionism bias via sheer force of numbers(which I called out as being an aspersion)
even the highest ranks in Wikipedia seem susceptible to external pressure, such as when Elon Musk actively agitated against several pro-human rights Wikipedia editors in the Gaza genocide area in front of around 58 million people, and got several of them sanctioned as a result.
there is no doubt in my mind that Mossad and the CIA have Wikipedia editors among them who attempt to hide and distort public information here as a part of their psy-ops, which are not possible for regular people to expose.), and otherwise demonstrating a very obvious partisan mindset:
So given that you are adding truthful information to controversial areas that the absolutely corrupt establishment wants to hide and distort, you unfortunately have to grow a much thicker skin and expect a lot of pushback without, for example, ever stating outright if you suspect that another specific editor is systematically pushing a very suspiciously intelligence-agency-propaganda-friendly agenda, as it would be loose speculation without evidence and can potentially lead to yourself getting banned. As far as I have understood, Wikipedians are mandated to assume good faith even in cases where it makes no logical sense whatsoever.
None that I am aware of, which makes me shocked given how long the behavior seems to have been going on for.
David A has a long history of battleground behavior and partisan editing in the topic area of the Arab-Israeli conflict. They're not even trying to hide the fact that they think Wikipedia is an information battleground, and they have often used rhetorical clichés like "think of the children" to discredit opponents' arguments. This appears to have been going on for years; I provided some of the most recent examples of this mindset in the diffs above, but it likely goes back much further. This editor's initial comment at the trainwreck AE thread Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive342#IntrepidContributor, in which they also said that Just because I do have a moral system that says "Over 18,000 dead children and around 1 million starving people = not good", this does not remotely make me a disruptive editor, and I think that people without any such ethical concerns would be considerably more concerning, as a lack of conscience is also a form of bias, and of a far more socially destructive variety.
, was cited as an example of battleground behavior in ScottishFinnishRadish's evidence in PIA5. That AE thread was September 2024; it is now November 2026 and their battleground mindset has not changed one bit. I suggest at minimum an indefinite PIA topic ban. SuperPianoMan9167 (talk) 16:49, 11 November 2026 (UTC)
A topic ban is the minimum appropriate remedy for partisan editing., but David A also reached out to Zero0000 to close a discussion they (David A) heavily commented in, apparently based on their viewpoint. (Zero0000 correctly declined.) Accusing other editors of being paid pro-Israel advocates without evidence is also problematic. I fail to see how persistent battleground behavior is not an editing problem on its own. "Think of the children" is problematic mainly because David A is conflating support for certain editorial decisions with real-life support for Israel (i.e. assuming that editors who support editorial decisions that appear to favor Israel actually support Israel's actions, and then condemning them based on that assumption). This goes beyond simply having opinions. SuperPianoMan9167 (talk) 19:08, 11 November 2026 (UTC)
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SuperPianoMan: Well, as far as I recall I haven't directly accused any specific editors, despite that I am likely too paranoid due to my overactive pattern-recognition combined with the past attacks from news media and Elon Musk's Twitter account against other pro-human rights editors in the Gaza genocide area, and also have a mental condition that makes it extremely difficult for me to filter/lie, and I have consistently attempted to be as polite and helpful as I can in Wikipedia, and have always apologised afterwards if I have ever gone over the line. And in addition I am barely even active in Wikipedia anymore, so I don't really see much of a point in attempting to get me banned, possibly simply due to disagreeing with my personal viewpoints, as I vaguely remember the editor who is attempting to get me sanctioned being active on the other side of the argument. But I apologise again if I am being a problem. David A (talk) 17:01, 11 November 2026 (UTC)
David A is referring to one "side" as the "pro-human rights side" (the other being the "pro-Zionism side") even in the above statement, which is possibly the least collaborative thing I have ever seen (only to be rivalled by "So given that you are adding truthful information to controversial areas that the absolutely corrupt establishment wants to hide and distort, you unfortunately have to grow a much thicker skin and expect a lot of pushback without, for example, ever stating outright if you suspect that another specific editor is systematically pushing a very suspiciously intelligence-agency-propaganda-friendly agenda, as it would be loose speculation without evidence and can potentially lead to yourself getting banned. As far as I have understood, Wikipedians are mandated to assume good faith even in cases where it makes no logical sense whatsoever.
") To clarify: if we don't like the result of a survey discussion, are we now allowed to accuse other editors of being paid by foreign governments to "twist the information" without consequence? aesurias (she/her) (talk) 19:55, 11 November 2026 (UTC)
I had a run-in with David in September since when I've noticed his name around and about. It seems that most of his activity since then has been continuously popping up where Alexandraaaacs1989 is active to support them in content and conduct disputes. They've supported Alexandraaaacs or their content at:
This may be to do with David's quite explicit division of editors into "pro-human rights" and "anti-human rights" camps, with Alexandraaaacs firmly in the former and "Zionists" firmly in the latter. and diff 5 of the original filing. As far as I know this activity is not invited and is unidirectional. There are various ways that it might be addressed but given that Alexandraaaacs' activity is quite prolific and controversial (by their own assessment), it becomes difficult to address issues that arise with it when it is reflexively defended - this is a factor in the series of ANIs that have sprung up in recent weeks around some of these issues. Samuelshraga (talk) 20:49, 11 November 2026 (UTC)
(Involved) My understanding was that David intended to describe factions (put crudely) on Wikipedia rather than to accuse others of bad faith. Referring to some editors as "anti-human rights" or "hardline Zionists" isn't a good way to articulate this and I agree he should be more careful with his phrasing precisely to avoid allegations like these, but it seems like his intention was to refer to the groups of editors that seem to pretty consistently agree with one another (and disagree with other groups of editors) pertaining to some arbcom topics. It's pretty obvious this pattern exists, and I think we should be able to plainly acknowledge it without jumping to "you're therefore accusing other editors of a coordinated conspiracy", which doesn't seem substantiated since there's many good faith explanations for why this phenomenon exists (like simply frequently disagreeing on a subject matter).
[EDIT: Trim section to reduce word count] Voicing paranoia is not a violation of policy absent of specific ABF violations, but I agree keeping discussions surrounding this topic to a minimum seems like a good idea absent of strong evidence to avoid WP:BATTLEGROUND allegations.
As for David commenting in subjects I'm involved with, this is a matter of us editing in the same article ecosystems. It's not a rare thing that two editors end up running into each other while editing similar topics of interest, and the fact this sometimes happens between active editors isn't evidence of misbehavior without evidence of specific disruption like WP:CANVASSING. It strikes me as odd that his interactions with my account have been a focal point of this discussion and presented as if they are evidence of wrongdoing-by-association simply because my activity is prolific and controversial
, as it were.
It really doesn't seem like there's any reason to turn up the temperature on this. There's no evidence of disruption, and I'm not a fan of how hostile the editing environment here is in general — this should have been resolved on David's talk page, and based on the way he's replied so far in this discussion, he would likely have listened to feedback. Trying to topic ban fellow editors without any prior attempts at de-escalation, understanding, or communication seems to be an action performed in bad taste so I strongly oppose any sanctions against this editor. Alexandraaaacs1989 (talk) 22:53, 11 November 2026 (UTC) [EDIT: Amended phrasing] Alexandraaaacs1989 (talk) 18:38, 12 November 2026 (UTC)
In March 2026, I was editing pages related to the Epstein files and we were discussing which people listed in them should be included. "David A" wanted to have page called "Relationship between Jeffrey Epstein and members of the Rothschild family".
Another editor wrote, "The problem is this idea of a link to “The Rothschilds”. The concept of “The Rothschilds” as a modern-day coherent organisational entity is based in notorious antisemitic conspiracy theories regarding a now rather dispersed Jewish family that a couple of centuries ago had a significant role in European banking. The material is mainly about someone who had been briefly married to a Rothschild descendant in the 1990s - which is a classic example of a dubious conspiracy theorising connection"
In the Epstein files, we found there to be two people with the last name "Rothschild" who were in the files and both married into the family. "David A"s desire to keep that page shows a tendency to support antisemitic conspiracy theories and a poor use of BLP policy. Guz13 (talk) 16:34, 12 November 2026 (UTC)
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I was away on holiday from the 24th of October, I returned this monday and now today logged onto wikipedia shocked to see that I'm suddenly banned for seemingly a heap of assumptions and correcting source accuracy??? I don’t use ANY ai tools to assist all my citations can be verified, infact I was fact checking people who probably did use ai as the sources mentioned things which weren't mentioned in the source itself!!! and it seems people trying to protect misinformation have gone ahead and conducted a pogrom attack on me so Im writing to formally appeal my indefinite block under WP:CT/EE.
The "behavioral overlap" cited in the SPI is from a reliance on the same publicly available and trusted digital sources, I’m going to respond to all the points now. First of all the SPI alleges that using the same primary and secondary sources proves account identity. In WW2 Albanian history the literature is very concentrated, Bernd J Fischer is universally recognized as one of the foremost global authorities on this specific era. Anyone conducting research on Balli Kombetar or Xhafer Deva will inevitably rely on Fischer, Mangerich, Bideleux & Jeffries, Noel malcom or Robert Elsie as they are the trusted sources with little to zero bias.
I accessed these references and page numbers through publicly available pdfs and on websites such as scribd, internet archives, research gate and google books, citing the most famous albanographers in the field are quite literally just academically professional. I don’t use any ai, my edits and articles are all referenced and reference specific policies (WP:LEAD, WP:NPOV, WP:OFFTOPIC and whatnot) because I make an effort to justify substantial edits and source corrections to demonstrate good faith and avoid edit warring.
The rapid bursts of edits were simply me working through a specific text or source incrementally to improve accuracy as seen in my edit history. I decided to formally create a wikipedia account to constructively contribute to articles that I noticed needed factual verification. I wish to be separated from the previously blocked accounts as I have no control over when other users were blocked or became inactive on other projects, my editing timeline is entirely due by my own personal availability and interest. I request that a neutral administrator urgently review my actual edit contributions and summaries, which show a consistent effort to align articles with reliable sources and content policies, it is against wiki policy to keep in claims which aren’t even stated in the source, if anyone disagrees with my edits please point out where I have done wrong. Buk21 (talk) 12:02, 11 November 2026 (UTC)
For context, see:
Recommend decline. Buk21 didn't provide a plausible explanation for why they restored Magapetro's content additions to Albanian National Front Party in a series of 110+ consecutive edits, which indicates both sockpuppetry and permission gaming; see my comment in the 26 October SPI case for details. Also, Buk21 didn't address their cross-wiki POV pushing within WP:CT/EE, a behavior that is shared with accounts associated with NormalguyfromUK, whose off-wiki coordination with Magapetro was documented in the 23 August SPI case. — Newslinger talk 21:09, 11 November 2026 (UTC)
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Dummy edit to force server side cache refresh for API mirrors- what fresh hell is this? --Joy (talk) 20:03, 11 November 2026 (UTC)
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For the past several weeks, ED144 has been making disruptive, POV, and inaccurate edits at Cass Review and related pages.
October 14:
ED144 was blocked from Cass Review for a week due to edit warring. However, the disruptive behavior has continued after being unblocked on October 21.
pseudoscienceand suggests describing it as
fraudulentin article voice, despite no sources using these terms
Given this pattern of behavior, I am concerned about ED144's current ability to edit collaboratively and productively in a contentious topic area. Astaire (talk) 20:33, 11 November 2026 (UTC)
I don't believe I ever edited the Hillary Cass pageIt is concerning that ED144 does not seem to remember, and apparently does not know how to locate, a CTOP edit from last month which multiple editors warned them about on their talk page. Astaire (talk) 20:17, 12 November 2026 (UTC)
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I believe this is a punitive attempt to silence my good faith contributions and punish me yet again for something that I was already punished for. I incurred a ban on the 14th for edit warring behavior. While, that provides context, I don't think it can be used as the sole justification for further administrative action.
Since that punishment, I have not engaged in edit warring behavior. I have boldly introduced changes, but let the reverts stand and discussed them on the talk page as well (that Astaire listed under point #5). Astaire labelled my statements as factually incorrect. After I posted my reasoning, he filed this report.I have responded with justifications and reasoning for my edits. Those comments have been left unaddressed.
I have noticed Astaire POV Pushing several times on trans topics, discounting source analysis, and evidence on whims. It is for this reason alone that I reviewed his changes to trans related topics, not out of some misguided attempt to punish a user of wikipedia or push my own POV
I truly welcome any attempt at arbitrating this conflict, I hope that we can focus on consensus building and healthy, civil, debate on what to include and exclude in different articles.
To address example #1: PositivelyUncertain and I have had disagreements but ended things amicably agreeing to rewrite the third paragraph of the lead. I did so, and pinged PositivelyUncertain to review my changes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cass_Review#c-Editing-dude144-20261111140100-PositivelyUncertain-20261028212300
Example #2: I wasn't even the first person to suggest that the review was pseudoscience. I also don't understand how it is uncivil to say that of the review. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cass_Review#c-Simonm223-20261016162500-LokiTheLiar-20261016162300
Example #3 I think you may have a point. I am sorry that I suggested AI chatbot usage. I should have assumed goodfaith in that instance.
Example #4 I truly believed that a consensus had been reached since reverts of my language due to this earlier commit https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cass_Review&diff=prev&oldid=1381890900
Example #5 I made good faith arguments as to why this content has been included. You can find them in the same talk thread that was linked here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cass_Review#h-November_11_edits-20261111150700
Note: please also review the following discussion for more context on this report. It is my belief that Astaire filed this report to prevent changes after he deleted longstanding comment. This report is just another part of the edit war that they are still fighting. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cass_Review#h-US_Endocrine_Society-20261111224200
Note2: just want to add that I was accused of WP:CIR on the linked talk page by astaire after they reported me. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Cass_Review&diff=prev&oldid=1385128610
Note3: ~~I don't believe I ever edited the Hillary Cass page~~ wait, I definitely did. Not sure how I missed that in review. Editing-dude144 (talk) 22:24, 12 November 2026 (UTC)
I was briefly involved in the dispute but dropped out of it a while ago. I agree that some of Editing-dude144's editing has been problematic, but would like to suggest that some WP:ROPE be extended. They are a new user, and as such have had to quickly learn how to edit in a contentious topic. For example, after their edit warring block, they have followed BRD since, even self-reverting here: .
A good chunk of the diffs presented are content disputes, and as such don't belong here. While I wouldn't have used the word "stonewalling," I do think that that accusation has some merit, and was considering bringing it here myself.
I'd suggest closing this with a warning to Editing-dude144, and would recommend them to gain more experience in other parts of Wikipedia. I'd also suggest that they don't accuse other editors of behavioural violations on an article talk page, and instead bring reports to the relevant places. WP:Focus on content would be a good read as well. InfernoHues (talk) 00:39, 12 November 2026 (UTC)
I have been active in the Cass Review discussions and have butted heads with Editing-dude and understand why Astaire made this complaint. The Cass Review page has always been contentious and a bit of a battleground. Editor-dude obviously cares a lot about this issue and came in hot with a lot of POV edits. An admin even commented on this . That said, Editing-dude is new and many new editors engage in topics they are passionate about so it's a bit understandable that there is a learning curve. The more troubling issue has been that even experienced editors on that page engage in battleground and are not setting a good example of how to collaboratively edit. Just look at all of edit warring just to remove a sentence Editing-Dude added right before being page-blocked:
See how diff 11 claims the sentence is "legacy content"? Editing-dude's was just repeating what Snokolok2 said. As for accusing me of 'stonewalling', he was repeating what Aquillion and Simonm223 accused me of. ( ). For the pseudoscience claim, Simonm223 did the same across 4 different threads: (Editing-dude joins this thread), , , . Basically - Editing-dude is following the example others are laying for him. Yes, this behaviour is disruptive, derails conversations, and scares off editors. But Editing-dude shouldn't be singled out for behavior rife across the page. PositivelyUncertain (talk) 22:48, 12 November 2026 (UTC)