Wikipedia:AI noticeboard/LifeLearning

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LifeLearning
4 October 2026
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4 October 2026

I suspect that this editor has made use of LLM in violation of WP:NOLLM. I am particularly bothered by Gershon HaCohen, which in its earliest version contains WP:AIBOLD and WP:AILIST, and also cites a Wikipedia article and contains a reference that does not go anywhere. Likewise, Glenn Cohen (psychologist) in its earliest version displays WP:AIBOLD, WP:AILIST and WP:AITITLECASE. I wonder if other editors more experienced in LLM detection may be able to find further evidence. Dionysodorus (talk | contribs) 22:41, 4 October 2026 (UTC)

(WP:AINB? is what I usually do) they triggered mw:Paste Check a bunch of times in June , incl. for the creation of Jerusalem Print Workshop (and yeah, v1 was blatant Special:Permalink/1358264559). LTX (world model) (Nov 2025, first relevant creation) had AIDASH, AIVOCAB, AILIST. Idk the start date wrt ordinary edits Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 22:53, 4 October 2026 (UTC)
Do you think this edit on 5 January 2025 looks AI-generated, and so could provide a start date for cleanup? Dionysodorus (talk | contribs) 23:14, 4 October 2026 (UTC)
bits of it do (eg. ...marking Israel’s first FTA in Asia and Korea’s first FTA in the Middle East.), but there are also grammatical errors etc. Their next potentially-AI edit was 2 Nov 2025 (Special:Diff/1320103949), same time as the first creation, so I'd probably start the tracker from there (btw it's interesting they've extensively edited Lightricks, created by someone blocked for UPE) Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 23:27, 4 October 2026 (UTC)

The editor has been active within the last month, so consensus is needed for PRV. Based on the above, I wonder if we could find consensus for PRV from 2 November 2025 onwards? Dionysodorus (talk | contribs) 23:41, 4 October 2026 (UTC)

Support per above Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 23:45, 4 October 2026 (UTC)
Support from me per above. Masterhatch (talk) 00:18, 5 October 2026 (UTC)
Support. Will make a tracker. M kuhner (talk) 01:53, 5 October 2026 (UTC)

Has someone given a clear warning? I've made a tracker. There's a "removed COI tag" among those pages somewhere, too, and a lot of other tags one doesn't like to see. M kuhner (talk) 01:56, 5 October 2026 (UTC)

Hi everyone, and thanks Dionysodorus for the notice about this discussion. I've been active on-and-off over the years, and am happy to make the conversation more simple: (1) There were a number of LLM-assisted edits I made, until someone pointed me to the no-AI policy (which I previously wasn't aware of), that has obviously stopped. (2) Nonetheless, happy to help with any review of any pages that you think still suffer from AI-related issues, even though I did my best to clean them up already. LifeLearning (talk) 11:17, 5 October 2026 (UTC)

Hi @LifeLearning, can you tell us roughly when you stopped using LLMs? (this'll make it much less likely for edits you wrote yourself to get caught up in this) Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 11:24, 5 October 2026 (UTC)
Sure @Kowal2701 - I used LLMs to help for a few weeks during June 2026, maybe a bit in July. Like I wrote, once it was brought to my attention that this was an issue, I stopped. LifeLearning (talk) 11:47, 5 October 2026 (UTC)
@LifeLearning: Are you sure you didn't use AI in November 2025 to write this? We thought that this looked like it might be AI-generated as well. Dionysodorus (talk | contribs) 12:41, 5 October 2026 (UTC)
@Dionysodorus no. LTX was a long one that took me time to do, but it was without an LLM. LifeLearning (talk) 17:08, 5 October 2026 (UTC)
@LifeLearning: And you're sure this edit isn't LLM-based either? Dionysodorus (talk | contribs) 17:21, 5 October 2026 (UTC)
@Dionysodorus I don't think so; if I'm not mistaken it was mainly cleaning up, tightening the structure and a lot of re-writing of existing information to improve the article. LifeLearning (talk) 20:37, 5 October 2026 (UTC)

If we accept the above, that implies that we ought to make the tracker start on 7 June (when Jerusalem Print Workshop was created) and end maybe on 12 July (after which there are no further edits to the problematic articles)? If nobody objects in the next day or so, I'll redo the tracker accordingly and start going through it. Dionysodorus (talk | contribs) 21:05, 5 October 2026 (UTC)

In addition to the AI signs, Pangram gives the Reception section at LTX in Nov 2025 as 100% AI , OTOH the Jan 2025 edit is given as 100% human-written (though false negatives are common) Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 21:48, 5 October 2026 (UTC)
What does Pangram make of the Lightricks edit? Dionysodorus (talk | contribs) 22:12, 5 October 2026 (UTC)
100% human, which checks out tbh, seems classically promotional Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 22:22, 5 October 2026 (UTC)
How about this and this, both creations in late November? Especially if those are also AI, but possibly in any case, we might need to conclude that LifeLearning is misremembering and we need the tracker to go from November after all. Dionysodorus (talk | contribs) 22:44, 5 October 2026 (UTC)
Pangram can't be the sole determiner of whether something's AI-generated or not, it's only useful as another 'strong sign' or data point. It typically has highly reliable positives, but also high false negatives (esp. w low word counts). But FWIW Zvika Klein 100% human , Pax Silica 71% AI . I'm confident it was 26 Nov 2025, people often either misremember or just respond dishonestly because the incentive to preserve their work is too strong (and us asking them may make them think we're very unsure and will take their word) Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 23:08, 5 October 2026 (UTC)
@Kowal2701 Like I said at the beginning - happy to have anything checked; some of those pages have already been officially reviewed by relevant users doing their job. My heavy use of AI was over the past summer (and your right, memory isn't 100% and it could be a few weeks to either side of what I recall), but do as you see fit. LifeLearning (talk) 06:46, 6 October 2026 (UTC)
phrasing on Zvika Klein also uncharacteristic of AI Gnomingstuff (talk) 23:55, 7 October 2026 (UTC)
Are you finding it more reliable than other checkers? Recently I've been encountering a lot of negative results on checkers I've used before that return 100% AI on Pangram - longer content that's already raised flags for me based on overall composition, but doesn't have the really overt tells. I suspect the use of "humanize" features is increasing false negatives. (Talk about a COI.) ChompyTheGogoat [ Bleat | Munched ] 22:50, 8 October 2026 (UTC)
imo it's more transparent and easier to use (compared to other automated detectors), analysing the text in segments is so much more helpful than whatever GPTZero does. Its positives are very reliable, but relatively high false negatives Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 23:10, 8 October 2026 (UTC)
Interesting. I was concerned it might be giving false positives considering the other results, but it seems like those might just be getting worse. And they are increasingly difficult to use - plus I've noticed they're getting tripped up over any wikitext I don't remove and return a different result after I do, whereas previously they'd just ignore it. ChompyTheGogoat [ Bleat | Munched ] 23:47, 8 October 2026 (UTC)

I've just prodded or tagged the creations from June/July, as well as LTX and Pax Silica which both come up as AI-generated on Pangram per the above. In terms of creations, that only leaves Zvika Klein, which Kowal and Gnomingstuff think does not look AI-generated if I understand the above correctly. Since I suppose it would be inappropriate to prod an article against the view of the noticeboard discussion, I've marked that as unnecessary, although personally my inclination would be to prod that as well on the basis that we don't really know and the removal is supposed to be presumptive. Dionysodorus (talk | contribs) 15:20, 9 October 2026 (UTC)

Hi @Dionysodorus,
I saw you flagged a number of articles as possible AI usage. Here's my question: some of the articles (Ori Kallner, Shai Babad, Gershon HaCohen, Jerusalem Print Workshop and some others) are translations of their non-English pages. I don't know if the translated copy-paste is part of the reason they were flagged, but either way - assuming no other editor steps up, can I still recreate them? Or, can I be the editor who takes ownership to rewrite them? What is the process for something of this sort? LifeLearning (talk) 19:36, 10 October 2026 (UTC)
@LifeLearning: If you like, we can send those articles to draftspace so that you can work on them, if you are willing to undertake that you will apply the steps laid out at WP:LLMTRANSLATE to the articles, and will not send them back to mainspace yourself after checking them but rather will submit them through our Articles for Creation process.
Indeed, we could also send the non-translated articles to draftspace rather than deleting them, if you are willing to undertake that you will not return them to mainspace without going through the AfC process. But in those cases you would need to rewrite the articles from scratch without LLM use: simply checking the articles would not be sufficient. Dionysodorus (talk | contribs) 20:13, 10 October 2026 (UTC)
@Dionysodorus Would you rather send them to draftspace or turn them into stubs? Either way, I'll rewrite any article I had created (translated and not translated) without LLMs at all. LifeLearning (talk) 20:24, 10 October 2026 (UTC)
@LifeLearning: I'm very happy to draftify the articles in place of deletion, if and only if you clearly undertake not to send them back to mainspace without going through AfC. I'm not going to stubify the articles, because it actually takes some time to turn an article into a decent stub in which the information given is validly sourced, and if I did that for all your articles it would take me all evening. But there's nothing stopping you from stubifying the articles if you prefer that to draftification or deletion, and if you do this appropriately there's no reason why the deletion tags shouldn't then be removed. Dionysodorus (talk | contribs) 20:45, 10 October 2026 (UTC)
@Dionysodorus Sure, I can stubify them. Any chance the timeline (currently 4 days) can be slightly extended? LifeLearning (talk) 21:22, 10 October 2026 (UTC)
@LifeLearning: This is why draftifying might potentially be a better solution, because it would enable you to work on the articles at your own leisure and resubmit them whenever they are ready. The timeline on the tags can't be extended, other than by simply removing the deletion tags, and I'm not terribly keen on doing that because it would mean that the LLM content is just left in mainspace until you get round to fixing it, which is suboptimal. This is precisely the kind of situation that draftspace is there for. Dionysodorus (talk | contribs) 22:17, 10 October 2026 (UTC)
@Dionysodorus so move them to draft when you see fit. Just to be clear - once they're re-written, I'll submit them for review without the AI tag, correct? LifeLearning (talk) 07:32, 11 October 2026 (UTC)
@LifeLearning: Yes that's right: once you have revised the article so that it is clearly fully human-written (in the case of non-translated articles) or adheres to WP:LLMTRANSLATE (in the case of translated articles), and once you have made sure that every single statement made is fully backed up by the sources cited, you can then remove the AI tag. When you do so, you should indicate in your edit summary that you have fully cleaned up the article, providing a link to this discussion and saying that you are proceeding as agreed here. Dionysodorus (talk | contribs) 08:01, 11 October 2026 (UTC)
@Dionysodorus understood and accepted. I'll start working on them once you've moved them to the draftspace. LifeLearning (talk) 08:14, 11 October 2026 (UTC)
@LifeLearning: I've just draftified the articles on that understanding. This discussion will probably now be closed and archived fairly soon, but do feel welcome to message me on my talk page if you have any questions subsequently. Dionysodorus (talk | contribs) 08:56, 11 October 2026 (UTC)
@Dionysodorus thank you. LifeLearning (talk) 09:20, 11 October 2026 (UTC)

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