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Shu Ying

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Non notable musician, looks like she only has a few non notable albums. When I looked her up all I could find were links to here and instagram. (I did find a link saying award winning, but I don’t know if it’s the same person or not) Sirlink2222 (talk) 19:48, 15 October 2026 (UTC)

• Note: this discussion has been included in the AfD sorting lists for the following topics: People, Bands and musicians, Women, Music, and China. Sirlink2222 (talk) 19:48, 15 October 2026 (UTC)

• Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. The subject passes Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Basic criteria, which says:

  People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject.

  • If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability.

  Sources

  1. Speder, Lorina (2022-04-08). "Avanciert abgründig" [Sophisticatedly abyssal]. Fairaudio (in German). Archived from the original on 2026-10-19. Retrieved 2026-10-19.

     The magazine notes: "Shu Ying, Idan Altman – Felt. 2020 trafen sich die chinesische Musikerin Shu Ying und Produzent Idan Altman und nahmen in nur drei Tagen ihre EP Felt auf, die nun auf Streaming-Plattformen veröffentlicht wurde. Die sechs Songs, die vom Indie, Post Punk, Acid Folk und Electropunk inspiriert sind, überzeugen vor allem durch den minimalistischen Aufbau, die ungewöhnlichen Gesangsmelodien und die DIY-Atmosphäre, die sie ausstrahlen. Der erste Song „颜色“, was mit „Visage“ übersetzt werden kann, beginnt mit einem simplen Computer-Beat, über den ein Bass brettert. Shu Yings Gesang baut einen lockeren Kontrast zu diesem Klanggerüst auf, in dem sie melodiös und teilweise vom Takt losgelöst singt. ... „简单“, übersetzt „Simplizität“, arbeitet nur mit einem elektrischen, minimalistischen Beat, der an Kraut und Post-Punk erinnert. Das Besondere hier ist vor allem Shu Yings Gesang, der eigenständig (und -willig) Harmonien wechselt und dabei mit den Tönen des Beats disharmoniert. Diese Art von Unabhängigkeit lässt das Lied sehr experimentell klingen."

     From Google Translate: "Shu Ying, Idan Altman – Felt. In 2020, Chinese musician Shu Ying and producer Idan Altman met and recorded their EP *Felt* in just three days; it has now been released on streaming platforms. The six songs—drawing inspiration from indie, post-punk, acid folk, and electropunk—are compelling, defined primarily by their minimalist structure, unconventional vocal melodies, and the DIY atmosphere they exude. The opening track, "颜色" (which can be translated as "Visage"), begins with a simple computer-generated beat, over which a bass line thunders. Shu Ying’s vocals create a loose contrast to this sonic framework, delivered melodically and at times detached from the underlying rhythm. ... "简单" ("Simplicity") relies on a minimalist electronic beat reminiscent of Krautrock and post-punk. What stands out here is Shu Ying’s vocal performance: she shifts harmonies in a way that is entirely her own—at times even clashing with the notes of the beat. This kind of independence gives the track a highly experimental feel."

  2. Haman, Brian (2018-09-05). "Girl's Girl's World". NeoCha. Archived from the original on 2018-09-10. Retrieved 2026-10-19.

     The magazine notes: "In October 2017, Shanghai-based musician Shu Ying released her first full-length album Girl’s Girl’s World to critical acclaim—the ten-track record quickly making noise across China’s independent music scene. Formerly a keyboardist with the post-punk outfit Undress for Success and founding member of the electronic dance band Quadruple Cherry, Shu now inhabits her own radiantly untamed melodies amidst the loud, discordant, confused noise of twenty-first century Shanghai. A multitalented singer-songwriter who sings and writes both in Chinese and English, she also works as a digital content marketer and runs the Chinese-Dutch indie music label Waving Cat Records. There’s a chameleon-like quality to her music, undoubtedly due to her diverse personal background. Of mixed Han and Kazakh descent, she spent her early years moving between Shaoxing, Urumqi, and Stockholm, and such youthful experiences proved formative for her music."

  3. "Shu Ying's Are You Still a Teenager?". Time Out Shanghai. 2016-03-15. Archived from the original on 2026-10-19. Retrieved 2026-10-19.

     The article notes: "Shu Ying, who you may know from her work with Undress for Success or the Shu Ying Quartet, has released a five track EP of attitude-laden punk-ish rock. It's a great listen - fans of PJ Harvey and Courtney Barnett should enjoy it."

  4. Griffith, Will (2017-12-22). "2017 Year in Review: 25 Albums That Wormed Their Way to Our Eardrums". The Beijinger. Archived from the original on 2017-12-26. Retrieved 2026-10-19.

     The article notes: "Shu Ying 树樱 – Girl’s Girl’s World (Shanghai/Self-Released) Shanghai singer-songwriter, Shu Ying, returns with the snappy, profoundly catchy, emotionally rich LP Girl’s Girl’s World. It’s rock and roll streamlined with a clear ear for what’s makes a chorus pop, with lyrics that are on the mark, and more importantly, a voice that stings with emotional honesty and pulpy aplomb."

  5. "Folk punk artist Shu Ying releases debut album on newly formed label Waving Cat Records". Unite Asia. 2017-08-23. Archived from the original on 2026-10-19. Retrieved 2026-10-19.

     The article notes: "Waving Cat Records is a new European – Chinese label, founded in 2017 by music producer Idan Altman and artist Shu Ying."

  There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Shu Ying (simplified Chinese: 树樱; traditional Chinese: 樹櫻) to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".

  Cunard (talk) 10:11, 19 October 2026 (UTC)

• Info - Note on soft closure: While this discussion appears to have no quorum, it is NOT eligible for soft deletion because it has been previously PROD'd (via summary).

--Cewbot (talk) 00:02, 23 October 2026 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Cunard's sources....
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BhikhariInformer‬ 📮 ^{(Ping me or else I won't see it)} 02:14, 23 October 2026 (UTC)

• Though WP:THREE is said as best practice, but Cunard's source 1 and 2 clearly meets WP:SIGCOV as WP:GNG doesn't specify numbers of sources for notability criteria. I am convinced that the sources provided by Cunard are sufficient to Keep the article. Dylan Reed (Ping me) 03:19, 23 October 2026 (UTC)

• Comment-nice to see some sources have been found. As I said I had a hard time finding them, I will see what others think as well if it should be kept or deleted.Sirlink2222 (talk) 03:23, 23 October 2026 (UTC)

  @Sirlink2222 It's not about what others think. Consensus is built on demonstrating evidence why we should Keep or Delete an article. AfD don't conclude the numbers of Keep or Delete vote, but on merits of providing a logical explanation to Keep or Delete. Dylan Reed (Ping me) 06:48, 23 October 2026 (UTC)

• Delete - As I see it the majority of the coverage available is really about the subject's albums rather than the subject themself and I am not convinced that the albums are independently notable. Can't see that any criteria of WP:MUSICBIO are met.

None of the subjects bands are notable, they haven't had any chart hits on a chart recognised by Wikipedia:Record charts, their record labels are not regarded as being major record labels (as far as I can see, I am not au fait with Chinese record labels), and they haven't had multiple pieces of coverage about them themselves. BleachPuffin (talk) 13:09, 23 October 2026 (UTC)

Keep good source finds, Cunard. Strong enough, for sure. Jishara (please ping upon response) (talk) 17:05, 23 October 2026 (UTC)

• Keep. Cunard's sources are good for WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV as the sources still talk about her, especially in Girl's Girl's World, and also WP:SIGCOV states: "Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material". MoviesandTelevisionFan (talk) 16:34, 24 October 2026 (UTC)

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