Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/New page reviewer
New page reviewer
- HilssaMansen19 (requesting New page reviewer, Pending changes reviewer) (t · th · c · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · pages created (xtools · sigma) · non-automated edits · BLP edits · undos · manual reverts · rollbacks · logs (blocks · rights · moves) · curation log · patrol log · AFD stats · AFC stats · CSD log · PROD log · Draftify log · Mainspace edits · rfar · spi · cci)
I would like to request temporary rights to contribute to Wikipedia by reviewing new pages as there is a huge backlog. I have been working on Wikipedia for past few months as an active user. During this time period, I have learnt a lot of things and learning something new every time I work here. Before these 2 months, I had a little experience on creating pages and within this time period, I started contributing by expanding older or creating new articles mostly within similar topic base. I would be glad to contribute to Wikipedia by reviewing new pages and also, learn along the way. I will also be working with the editors of new articles which might be notable but lack sources or other requirements. Thus, I am requesting a temporary grant of this right and I will prove for further grant by doing worthy work. HilssaMansen19 (talk) 09:52, 27 April 2025 (UTC)
- Main reason is, I wish to join the May Backlog drive and contribute there. I have created several articles, including some years back after which I was inactive for long. I participated in AfD patrol before being inactive and recently engaging in a good way as well.
- A temporary grant is requested through this request.
- I will prove the granted right worthy enough through great work to retain it for further period as well.
HilssaMansen19 (talk) 10:22, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
- I am messaging here again to seek a temporary request for the Backlog drive. I have understanding of Wikipedia policies like notability, verifiability and reliability which are the base of new pages reviewing. I wish to start working instantly now in the May Backlog drive. Thanks. HilssaMansen19 (talk) 18:13, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Rosguill I didn't know who else to tag as you were the last active administrator here. I wish to work and help in the May Backlog drive. With a complete understanding of required policies, active AfD participation, and more than 500 mainspace edits, waiting for the request to be approved. HilssaMansen19 (talk) 17:21, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
- I apologize for the delay, as you can see this page has been rather backlogged for some time. Unfortunately, after reviewing your recent article creations, I do not think it would be appropriate to confer new page reviewer permissions at this time, as several of your recent articles (particularly, those relating to castes) do not clearly demonstrate an understanding of WP:GNG: the coverage provided is trivial in depth.
Not done signed, Rosguill talk 18:16, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
- Are you discussing the sub-castes or surnames pages? They are notable pages as there are hundreds if not thousands similar pages but with less or no sources. The reason is policy simply mentions to add already existing pages to surname related pages. As for clans/sub-castes pages, best few or those sources which covers in-depth research in particular like the ones added. They are used on tens of other pages as well. They have direct data analysis from Pre-British Raj, during Raj and then, India's government/or ground analysis covered. I have actually added the most relevant information with sources per WP:THREESOURCES and per WP:NOR. They do meet all the relevant policies and I would like to know which ones need to be improved particularly per policies as it will be a needed work to do so.
- Apart from them, similarly, I have created Bio pages which are not lacking any references. I have added the most notable sources available to meet the policies.
- Can you kindly check those as they are not clan/division related stub articles?
- I am actively contributing here and requested here to participate in May backlog drive. After a trial grant, my next request will be based on review of my work as well, you can review within trial period too. With 1 month trial to participate in this drive as I have less work, lesser studies and no exams but can contribute actively. HilssaMansen19 (talk) 23:09, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
- I would expect a new page reviewer to not make an other stuff exists argument. Your reference to WP:NOR here doesn't inspire confidence, as it's not relevant to the criticism I presented. To take literally just your most recent subcaste article, Bhukai (subcaste), none of the claims in the article are verifiable with the given citation. Searching the online copy returns only a brief mention, and you've provided no page numbers or quotes that suggest any additional content that the digital search misses. You also cite two editions of the same work by K. S. Singh as if they were two different works. Bamral (subcaste), Judge (subcaste), Tulsi (Sikh clan) and Bimbat (subcaste) all appear to have the same issues. signed, Rosguill talk 00:19, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- Seconding Rosguill on this one. I've been concerned by some of your AfD !votes and think you need more experience with determining notability. -- asilvering (talk) 03:49, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- Hi, I am not even sure what do you mean. You have been concerned by my AfD votes but can you share the votes here, I will review before further discussion? HilssaMansen19 (talk) 05:36, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- They are two different notable works of KS Singh and of different regions. Thus, added. His works are on provincial level and national level as well. I can add more but as they were the two best sources, I added them. It is not whataboutery here but they are actually different works not editions. National and state by state level. HilssaMansen19 (talk) 05:33, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- Upon further review, they had just a few differences, edition change and thank you for pointing that out I have changed it to other sources and added more. There are about 6-7 detailed sources available, so I picked up best 3, now, I have replaced that one.
- Can you grant me a temporary grant trial as I will he helping out in backlog and provide the best work there. Meanwhile, can you guide if new articles should be added or other criteria. For a work record to be reviewed by you or other admins when re-applyling. HilssaMansen19 (talk) 09:34, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- No. Your explanations have not substantially engaged with my criticisms (simply adding more sources, that also lack page numbers or links to relevant significant coverage, only further convinces me that you lack an adequate understanding of how to provide references), and your further responses indicate that your level of English proficiency is not quite strong enough for new page review, other concerns aside. Additionally, excessively arguing this point is further evidence that you lack the appropriate temperament for this work. signed, Rosguill talk 13:35, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- It's fine that you do not want to. I was actually not arguing at all but reply to previous arguments provided by you. To respectfully ask for advice and replying to your and other user's replies/arguments is not arguing. I asked you for guidance, not personal attacks. I asked the other admin for links. As for minor errors, it's called glide typing which helps when writing long paragraphs. Anyway, I agree that it was not a right choice to put my efforts in asking for advice from you. I will rather continue contributing rightfully than getting irrelevant arguments which are totally uncalled for. It further makes me doubt your proficiency/nationality with lack of understanding between seeking advice vs. appropriate temperament. I would assume good faith as you are an administrator and Wikipedia community must have been careful in choosing one but what an unexpected reply from an administrator. HilssaMansen19 (talk) 14:08, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- No. Your explanations have not substantially engaged with my criticisms (simply adding more sources, that also lack page numbers or links to relevant significant coverage, only further convinces me that you lack an adequate understanding of how to provide references), and your further responses indicate that your level of English proficiency is not quite strong enough for new page review, other concerns aside. Additionally, excessively arguing this point is further evidence that you lack the appropriate temperament for this work. signed, Rosguill talk 13:35, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- Seconding Rosguill on this one. I've been concerned by some of your AfD !votes and think you need more experience with determining notability. -- asilvering (talk) 03:49, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- I would expect a new page reviewer to not make an other stuff exists argument. Your reference to WP:NOR here doesn't inspire confidence, as it's not relevant to the criticism I presented. To take literally just your most recent subcaste article, Bhukai (subcaste), none of the claims in the article are verifiable with the given citation. Searching the online copy returns only a brief mention, and you've provided no page numbers or quotes that suggest any additional content that the digital search misses. You also cite two editions of the same work by K. S. Singh as if they were two different works. Bamral (subcaste), Judge (subcaste), Tulsi (Sikh clan) and Bimbat (subcaste) all appear to have the same issues. signed, Rosguill talk 00:19, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- I apologize for the delay, as you can see this page has been rather backlogged for some time. Unfortunately, after reviewing your recent article creations, I do not think it would be appropriate to confer new page reviewer permissions at this time, as several of your recent articles (particularly, those relating to castes) do not clearly demonstrate an understanding of WP:GNG: the coverage provided is trivial in depth.
- @Rosguill I didn't know who else to tag as you were the last active administrator here. I wish to work and help in the May Backlog drive. With a complete understanding of required policies, active AfD participation, and more than 500 mainspace edits, waiting for the request to be approved. HilssaMansen19 (talk) 17:21, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
- TheWikiholic (t · th · c · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · pages created (xtools · sigma) · non-automated edits · BLP edits · undos · manual reverts · rollbacks · logs (blocks · rights · moves) · curation log · patrol log · AFD stats · AFC stats · CSD log · PROD log · Draftify log · Mainspace edits · rfar · spi · cci)
Given the ongoing New Pages Patrol backlog drive, I was wondering if it would be possible to allow NPP permission. I'd greatly appreciate the opportunity to contribute and help alleviate the backlog. Your consideration would mean a lot to me! TheWikiholic (talk) 03:13, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
- Reviewing your block log and Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/TheWikiholic/Archive, I don't think it would be appropriate to trust you with advanced permissions again.
Not done. signed, Rosguill talk 18:49, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
- Given the current NNP backlog drive, would it be possible to temporarily restore it until the end of the month? I'll be extra careful and ensure everything meets the guidelines this time. TheWikiholic (talk) 08:42, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- No: you engaged in sockpuppetry in 2017, promised never to do it again, then got caught engaging in meatpuppetry in 2023, with further circumstantial evidence that you were misusing your new page reviewer and AfC permissions to advance UPE. At this point, I would need to see nearly a decade of solid contributions from you to even begin to consider re-conferring advanced permissions. signed, Rosguill talk 18:30, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- Given the current NNP backlog drive, would it be possible to temporarily restore it until the end of the month? I'll be extra careful and ensure everything meets the guidelines this time. TheWikiholic (talk) 08:42, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- Pichemist (t · th · c · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · pages created (xtools · sigma) · non-automated edits · BLP edits · undos · manual reverts · rollbacks · logs (blocks · rights · moves) · curation log · patrol log · AFD stats · AFC stats · CSD log · PROD log · Draftify log · Mainspace edits · rfar · spi · cci)
I think I'd be able to help with the backlog! I have experience with WP:AFC and I can apply similar skills here. Signed, Pichemist ( Contribs | Talk ) 21:33, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia and your interest in this permission. Unfortunately, I note some issues of concern in your recent page creation history: at Ulysses Lodge a few weeks ago, you appear to have included AI-generated content with insufficient review; at Keith Demicoli you have not provided citations to independent sources with significant coverage of the subject. In light of these recent issues and a lack of positive evidence from AfD or elsewhere otherwise demonstrating sufficient knowledge of relevant policies and guidelines, I do not think it would be appropriate to confer new page reviewer permissions at this time.
Not done signed, Rosguill talk 17:50, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- Chanel Dsouza (t · th · c · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · pages created (xtools · sigma) · non-automated edits · BLP edits · undos · manual reverts · rollbacks · logs (blocks · rights · moves) · curation log · patrol log · AFD stats · AFC stats · CSD log · PROD log · Draftify log · Mainspace edits · rfar · spi · cci)
I believe I meet most of the criteria for obtaining NPP rights. I am interested in contributing to the May backlog drive and assisting in reducing the number of unreviewed pages. Therefore I would like to request the NPP flag to support this effort. Chanel Dsouza (talk) 08:12, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
Automated comment This user has 410 edits in the mainspace. — MusikBot talk 08:20, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- You're just shy of the mainspace edit count prerequisite, but taking into account your strong AfD track record and overall total of over 500 edits across namespaces, I'm prepared to issue a trial run for the next month.
Done signed, Rosguill talk 18:25, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- Destinyokhiria (requesting New page reviewer, Pending changes reviewer, Rollback) (t · th · c · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · pages created (xtools · sigma) · non-automated edits · BLP edits · undos · manual reverts · rollbacks · logs (blocks · rights · moves) · curation log · patrol log · AFD stats · AFC stats · CSD log · PROD log · Draftify log · Mainspace edits · rfar · spi · cci)
I would like to assist with reviewing new article drafts to help ensure they meet encyclopedic standards. Destinyokhiria (talk) 21:41, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
Automated comment This user has 257 edits in the mainspace. — MusikBot talk 21:50, 6 May 2025 (UTC)