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Speedy renaming or speedy merging of categories may be requested only if they meet a speedy criterion, for example WP:C2D (consistency with main article's name) or WP:C2C (consistency with established category tree names). Please see instructions below.
- Determine which speedy criterion applies
- Tag category page with
{{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}
or{{subst:cfm-speedy|Merge target}}
- List request along with speedy criteria reason under "Current requests" below on this page
Please note that a speedy request must state which of the narrowly defined criteria strictly applies. Hence, any other non-speedy criteria, even "common sense" or "obvious", may be suitable points, but only at a full discussion at WP:Categories for discussion.
Requests may take 48 hours to process after listing if there are no objections. This delay allows other users to review the request to ensure that it meets the speedy criteria for speedy renaming or merging, and to raise objections to the proposed change.
Categories that qualify for speedy deletion (per Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion, e.g., "patent nonsense", "recreation") can be tagged with the regular speedy tags, such as {{db|reason}}
with no required delay. Empty categories can be deleted if they remain empty 7 days after tagging with {{db-empty}}. Renaming under C2E may also be processed instantly (at the discretion of an administrator) as it is a variation on G7.
To oppose a speedy request you must record your objection within 48 hours of the nomination. Do this by inserting immediately under the nomination:
- Oppose, (the reasons for your objection). ~~~~
You will not be able to do this by editing the page WP:Categories for discussion. Instead, you should edit the section WP:Categories for discussion#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here or the page WP:Categories for discussion/Speedy#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here (WP:CFDS). Be aware that in the course of any discussion, the nomination and its discussion may get moved further down the page purely for organizational convenience – you may need to search WP:CFDS to find the new location. Participate in any ongoing discussion, but unless you withdraw your opposition, a knowledgeable person may eventually bring forward the nomination and discussion to become a regular CFD discussion. At that stage you may add further comments, but your initial opposition will still be considered. However, if after seven days there has been no support for the request, and no response from the nominator, the request may be dropped from further consideration as a speedy.
Contested speedy requests become stale, and can be untagged and delisted after 7 days of inactivity. Optionally, if the discussion may be useful for future reference, it may be copied to the category talk page, with a section heading and {{moved discussion from|[[WP:CFDS]]|2=~~~~}}
. If the nominator wants to revive the process, this may be requested at WP:Categories for discussion (CfD) in accordance with its instructions.
If you belatedly notice and want to oppose a speedy move that has already been processed, contact one of the admins who process the Speedy page. If your objection seems valid, they may reverse the move, or start a full CFD discussion.
Speedy criteria
The category-specific criteria for speedy renaming, or merging are strictly limited to:
C2A: Typographic and spelling fixes
- Correction of spelling errors and capitalization fixes. Differences between British and American spelling (e.g. Harbours → Harbors) are not considered errors; however if the convention of the relevant category tree is to use one form over the other then a rename may be appropriate under C2C. If both spellings exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged.
- Appropriate conversion of hyphens into en dashes or vice versa (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations).
- Correction of obvious grammatical errors, such as a missing conjunction (e.g. Individual frogs toads → Individual frogs and toads). This includes pluralizing a noun in the name of a set category, but not when disagreement might reasonably be anticipated as to whether the category is a topic or set category.
C2B: Consistency with established Wikipedia naming conventions and practices
- Expanding abbreviated country names (e.g. U.S. → United States).
- Disambiguation fixes from an unqualified name (e.g. Category:Washington → Category:Washington (state) or Category:Washington, D.C.).
C2C: Consistency with established category tree names
Bringing a category into line with established naming conventions for that category tree, or into line with the various "x by y", "x of y", or "x in y" categorization conventions specified at Wikipedia:Category names
- This should be used only where there is no room for doubt that the category in question is being used for the standard purpose instead of being a potential subcategory.
- This criterion should be applied only when there is no ambiguity or doubt over the existence of a category naming convention. Such a convention must be well defined and must be overwhelmingly used within the tree. If this is not the case then the category in question must be brought forward to a full Cfd nomination.
- This criterion will not apply in cases where the category tree observes distinctions in local usage (e.g. Category:Transportation in the United States and Category:Transport in the United Kingdom).
C2D: Consistency with main article's name
- Renaming a topic category to match its eponymous page (e.g. Category:The Beatles and The Beatles).
- This applies only if the related page's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is:
- unambiguous (so it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the primary topic of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator); and
- uncontroversial, either because of longstanding stability at that particular name, or because the page was just moved (i) after a page move discussion resulted in explicit consensus to rename, or (ii) unilaterally to reflect an official renaming which is verified by one or more citations (provided in the nomination). C2D does not apply if the result would be contrary to guidelines at WP:CATNAME, or there is any ongoing discussion about the name of the page or category, or there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages that resulted in a no consensus result, or it is controversial in some other way.
- This criterion may also be used to rename a set category in the same circumstances, where the set is defined by a renamed topic; e.g. players for a sports team, or places in a district.
- Before nominating a category to be renamed per WP:C2D, consider whether it makes more sense to move the article instead of the category.
C2E: Author request
- This criterion applies only if the author of a category requests or agrees to renaming within six months of creating the category.
- The criterion does not apply if other editors have populated or changed the category since it was created. "Other editors" includes bots that populated the category, but excludes an editor working with the author on the renaming.
C2F: One eponymous page
- This criterion applies if the category contains only an eponymous article, list, template or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories, where applicable. Nominations should use
{{subst:cfm-speedy}}
(speedy merger) linking to a suitable parent category, or to another appropriate category (e.g. one that is currently on the article). When listing the nomination at WP:CFDS, you must manually add all the appropriate parent categories as targets if the member page is not already in them.
Admin instructions
When handling the listings:
- Make sure that the listing meets one of the above criteria.
- With the exception of C2E, make sure that it was both listed and tagged at least 48 hours previously.
- Make sure that there is no opposition to the listing; if there is a discussion, check if the opposing user(s) ended up withdrawing their opposition.
If the listing meets these criteria, simply have the category renamed or merged – follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Administrator instructions, in the section "If the decision is to Rename, Merge, or Delete"; to list it for the bots, use the Speedy moves section.
Applying speedy criteria in full discussions
- A nomination to merge or rename, brought forward as a full CfD, may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that:
- The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed here, and
- No objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination.
- If both these conditions are satisfied, the closure will be regarded as having been a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus.
Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here
If the category and desired change do not match one of the criteria mentioned in C2, do not list it here. Instead, list it in the main CFD section.
If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, do not list it here.
Use the following format on a new line at the beginning of the list:
* [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
If the current name should be redirected rather than deleted, use:
* REDIRECT [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
To note that human action is required, e.g. updating a template that populates the category, use:
* NO BOTS [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
Remember to tag the category page with: {{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}
A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, if the time stamp shown is earlier than 23:29, 6 May 2025 (UTC). Currently, there are 144 open requests (. )
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Current requests
Please add new requests at the top of the list, preferably with a link to the parent category (in case of C2C) or relevant article (in case of C2D).
- Category:ASD Martina Calcio 1947 players to Category:SSD Martina Calcio 1947 players – C2D per SSD Martina Calcio 1947 MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 14:49, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Fictional arbalists (crossbowman) to Category:Fictional arbalists (crossbowmen) – C2A 177.103.126.210 (talk)
07:16, 8 May 2025 (UTC)- This one I agree needs a second plural in the qualifier. Moved to top of list after tagging the page – Fayenatic London 13:24, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you! 177.103.126.210 (talk) 23:29, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- This one I agree needs a second plural in the qualifier. Moved to top of list after tagging the page – Fayenatic London 13:24, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Educational foundations in the United States to Category:Educational foundations based in the United States – C2C with parent Category:Foundations based in the United States – Fayenatic London 11:21, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Medical and health foundations in the United States to Category:Medical and health foundations based in the United States
- Category:Political and economic research foundations in the United States to Category:Political and economic research foundations based in the United States
- Category:Scientific research foundations in the United States to Category:Scientific foundations based in the United States
- Category:Conservation and environmental foundations in the United States to Category:Conservation and environmental foundations based in the United States
- Category:Free software project foundations in the United States to Category:Free software project foundations based in the United States
- Category:Birth trauma to Category:Birth trauma (physical) – C2D - Anomalous+0 (talk) 09:00, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- REDIRECT Category:Children's books about indigenous peoples of the Americas to Category:Children's books about Indigenous peoples of the Americas – C2B: MOS:INDIGENOUS. Listing on behalf of Bohemian Baltimore. Best, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 04:40, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- REDIRECT Category:Endangered indigenous languages of the Americas to Category:Endangered Indigenous languages of the Americas
- REDIRECT Category:Former indigenous peoples in Guatemala to Category:Former Indigenous peoples in Guatemala
- REDIRECT Category:Genocide of indigenous peoples of South America to Category:Genocide of Indigenous peoples of South America
- REDIRECT Category:Genocide of indigenous peoples of the Americas to Category:Genocide of Indigenous peoples of the Americas
- REDIRECT Category:Guatemalan indigenous rights activists to Category:Guatemalan Indigenous rights activists
- REDIRECT Category:History of indigenous peoples of South America to Category:History of Indigenous peoples of South America
- REDIRECT Category:History of indigenous peoples of the Americas to Category:History of Indigenous peoples of the Americas
- REDIRECT Category:Linguists of indigenous languages of the Americas to Category:Linguists of Indigenous languages of the Americas
- REDIRECT Category:Lists of indigenous peoples of the Americas to Category:Lists of Indigenous peoples of the Americas
- REDIRECT Category:Non-fiction books about indigenous peoples of the Americas to Category:Non-fiction books about Indigenous peoples of the Americas
- REDIRECT Category:Oral historians of indigenous American culture to Category:Oral historians of Indigenous American culture
- REDIRECT Category:Women indigenous leaders in Canada to Category:Women Indigenous leaders in Canada
- REDIRECT Category:Women indigenous leaders of the Americas to Category:Women Indigenous leaders of the Americas
- These are not intuitive capitalisations, especially as it appears that the word is only being capitalised in the context of the Americas and Australia. So let's redirect all these. – Fayenatic London 13:32, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Perth, Western Australia to Category:Perth, C2C with Category:Australian capital cities, C2D with Perth Teiserpente (talk) 01:41, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Companies based in Perth, Western Australia to Category:Companies based in Perth, C2C with Category:Companies of Australia by city, C2D with Perth Teiserpente (talk) 01:41, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Manufacturing companies based in Perth, Western Australia to Category:Manufacturing companies based in Perth, C2C with Category:Manufacturing companies by city, C2D with Perth Teiserpente (talk) 01:41, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Organisations based in Perth, Western Australia to Category:Organisations based in Perth, C2C with Category:Organisations based in Australia by city, C2D with Perth Teiserpente (talk) 01:41, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- I have only tagged these four categories now.--Ymblanter (talk) 05:45, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Musical groups from Saint Paul to Category:Musical groups from Saint Paul, Minnesota – C2B: per Saint Paul (disambiguation)#Places and C2D: per Saint Paul, Minnesota StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 23:56, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Permanent Representatives of the United States to NATO to Category:Permanent representatives of the United States to NATO – C2C with main category Category:Permanent representatives to NATO. Woko Sapien (talk) 21:03, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Permanent Representatives of Albania to NATO to Category:Permanent representatives of Albania to NATO
- Category:Permanent Representatives of Armenia to NATO to Category:Permanent representatives of Armenia to NATO
- Category:Permanent Representatives of Azerbaijan to NATO to Category:Permanent representatives of Azerbaijan to NATO
- Category:Permanent Representatives of Belarus to NATO to Category:Permanent representatives of Belarus to NATO
- Category:Permanent Representatives of Belgium to NATO to Category:Permanent representatives of Belgium to NATO
- Category:Permanent Representatives of Bulgaria to NATO to Category:Permanent representatives of Bulgaria to NATO
- Category:Permanent Representatives of Canada to NATO to Category:Permanent representatives of Canada to NATO
- Category:Permanent Representatives of Croatia to NATO to Category:Permanent representatives of Croatia to NATO
- Category:Permanent Representatives of the Czech Republic to NATO to Category:Permanent representatives of the Czech Republic to NATO
- Category:Permanent Representatives of Denmark to NATO to Category:Permanent representatives of Denmark to NATO
- Category:Permanent Representatives of Estonia to NATO to Category:Permanent representatives of Estonia to NATO
- Category:Permanent Representatives of France to NATO to Category:Permanent representatives of France to NATO
- Category:Permanent Representatives of Germany to NATO to Category:Permanent representatives of Germany to NATO
- Category:Permanent Representatives of Greece to NATO to Category:Permanent representatives of Greece to NATO
- Category:Permanent Representatives of Hungary to NATO to Category:Permanent representatives of Hungary to NATO
- Category:Permanent Representatives of Iceland to NATO to Category:Permanent representatives of Iceland to NATO
- Category:Permanent Representatives of Italy to NATO to Category:Permanent representatives of Italy to NATO
- Category:Permanent Representatives of Jordan to NATO to Category:Permanent representatives of Jordan to NATO
- Category:Permanent Representatives of Kazakhstan to NATO to Category:Permanent representatives of Kazakhstan to NATO
- Category:Permanent Representatives of Latvia to NATO to Category:Permanent representatives of Latvia to NATO
- Category:Permanent Representatives of Lithuania to NATO to Category:Permanent representatives of Lithuania to NATO
- Category:Permanent Representatives of Luxembourg to NATO to Category:Permanent representatives of Luxembourg to NATO
- Category:Permanent Representatives of Malta to NATO to Category:Permanent representatives of Malta to NATO
- Category:Permanent Representatives of Moldova to NATO to Category:Permanent representatives of Moldova to NATO
- Category:Permanent Representatives of the Netherlands to NATO to Category:Permanent representatives of the Netherlands to NATO
- Category:Permanent Representatives of Norway to NATO to Category:Permanent representatives of Norway to NATO
- Category:Permanent Representatives of Poland to NATO to Category:Permanent representatives of Poland to NATO
- Category:Permanent Representatives of Portugal to NATO to Category:Permanent representatives of Portugal to NATO
- Category:Permanent Representatives of Romania to NATO to Category:Permanent representatives of Romania to NATO
- Category:Permanent Representatives of Slovakia to NATO to Category:Permanent representatives of Slovakia to NATO
- Category:Permanent Representatives of Slovenia to NATO to Category:Permanent representatives of Slovenia to NATO
- Category:Permanent Representatives of Spain to NATO to Category:Permanent representatives of Spain to NATO
- Category:Permanent Representatives of Sweden to NATO to Category:Permanent representatives of Sweden to NATO
- Category:Permanent Representatives of Turkey to NATO to Category:Permanent representatives of Turkey to NATO
- Category:Permanent Representatives of the United Kingdom to NATO to Category:Permanent representatives of the United Kingdom to NATO
- Category:Permanent Representatives of West Germany to NATO to Category:Permanent representatives of West Germany to NATO
- Category:Ambassadors and High Commissioners of the United Kingdom to the Gambia to Category:Ambassadors and high commissioners of the United Kingdom to the Gambia – C2C with parent category Category:High commissioners of the United Kingdom. Woko Sapien (talk) 19:03, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Ambassadors and High Commissioners of the United Kingdom to South Africa to Category:Ambassadors and high commissioners of the United Kingdom to South Africa
- Category:Villages in Bolangir district to Category:Villages in Balangir district – C2D: Per Balangir district. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 18:48, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Ukrainian Twitch (service) people to Category:Ukrainian Twitch (service) streamers - C2C: Inline with others at Category:Twitch (service) streamers by nationality. - HighlandFacts (talk) 15:39, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- Category:New Zealand Twitch (service) people to Category:New Zealand Twitch (service) streamers - C2C: Inline with others at Category:Twitch (service) streamers by nationality. - HighlandFacts (talk) 15:35, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Books by publishing company in Nigeria to Category:Books by publishing company of Nigeria - C2C: Inline with others at Category:Books by country of publishing company. HighlandFacts (talk) 15:30, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Personal water craft to Category:Personal watercraft – C2D: Personal water craft Kaffet i halsen (talk) 11:01, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- REDIRECT Category:Tiwa Puebloans to Category:Tiwa Pueblo peoples - C2D Tiwa Pueblo peoples. --Plumber (talk) 02:56, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- OK, rename, but then disambiguate between peoples (tribal info) and people (biographies). – Fayenatic London 11:29, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Heads of government of Australian states and territories to Category:Heads of government of Australia – C2C: Inline with others at Category:Australian ministers GMH Melbourne (talk) 01:22, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- Category:State University of Medan to Category:Universities in Medan – C2F. SMasonGarrison 23:22, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Life Sciences and Environment Research Organization to Category:Research institutes in Indonesia – C2F. SMasonGarrison 23:22, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Purple Line (BART) to Category:Bay Area Rapid Transit lines – C2F. SMasonGarrison 23:11, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Nanjing Medical University to Category:Universities and colleges in Nanjing – C2F. SMasonGarrison 23:09, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Kagoshima Main Line to Category:Lines of Kyushu Railway Company – C2F. SMasonGarrison 23:02, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Fort Johnson (South Carolina) to Category:Forts on the National Register of Historic Places in South Carolina – C2F. SMasonGarrison 22:56, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- Category:St Helena Tunnel to Category:Tunnels in New South Wales – C2F. SMasonGarrison 22:55, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Nevada State Athletic Commissioners to Category:Nevada state athletic commissioners – C2C with parent category Category:State athletic commissioners. Woko Sapien (talk) 21:10, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Pennsylvania State Athletic Commissioners to Category:Pennsylvania state athletic commissioners
- Category:New York State Athletic Commissioners to Category:New York state athletic commissioners
- Category:Dynasties of Medieval Andhradesa to Category:Minor Dynasties of Medieval Andhradesa – C2E These were minor dynasties, so it is more apt to mention Minor Sharkslayer87 (talk) 09:50, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: would it make more sense as Category:Minor dynasties of medieval Andhradesa? That way it fully conforms to WP:SENTENCECASE. Woko Sapien (talk) 14:47, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
- I have only tagged the category now. Note also that it does not have subcategories (and generally anything except for the CfD template) Ymblanter (talk) 21:03, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Sharkslayer87: support "medieval" per C2A, and per Woko Sapien. That can be processed for a start. Other than that it should go to full discussion, it is questionable if "minor" adds anything and the name "Andhradesa" is also not too obvious. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:27, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle: The idea is to only include small medieval dynasties from andhra region in this category and not include big ones. Andhradesa can be changed to Andhra. @Woko Sapien: I agree with you. Sharkslayer87 (talk) 11:07, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Sharkslayer87: support "medieval" per C2A, and per Woko Sapien. That can be processed for a start. Other than that it should go to full discussion, it is questionable if "minor" adds anything and the name "Andhradesa" is also not too obvious. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:27, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
Opposed requests
- Category:United States Army vice chiefs of staff to Category:Chiefs of Staff of the United States Army – C2D: main article is Chief of Staff of the United States Army Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:59, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy - needs full discussion. Woko Sapien (talk) 09:54, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
- Category:United States Army chiefs of staff to Category:Vice Chiefs of Staff of the United States Army – C2D: main article is Vice Chief of Staff of the United States Army Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:59, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
- Following the discussion at my talk page, would you be willing to move this for a full CfD? Ymblanter (talk) 09:46, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy needs full discussion. Woko Sapien (talk) 09:59, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Female impersonators in Peking opera to Category:Male dan player in Peking opera – C2A: Male performers of female roles in Peking opera should be referred to as “male dan”. [See Wiki article "Dan Role"] The expression “female impersonator” is a misleading connotation of Western drag artiste, a parody of femininity. [Source: Li, Ruru (1 May 2010). The Soul of Beijing Opera: Theatrical Creativity and Continuity in the Changing World. Hong Kong University Press. ISBN 9789622099944. page 83.] TheIntrospectorsfacts (talk) 16:38, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- @TheIntrospectorsfacts: procedural oppose, this is not C2A and should go to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:02, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Low-importance United States Presidents articles to Category:Low-importance presidents of the United States articles – C2D, better aligns categories with main project (Wikipedia:WikiProject Presidents of the United States). Also C2B (MOS:JOBTITLES), which is less critical, but we might as well if we're updating all these categories. Woko Sapien (talk) 18:41, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Mid-importance United States Presidents articles to Category:Mid-importance presidents of the United States articles
- Category:High-importance United States Presidents articles to Category:High-importance presidents of the United States articles
- Category:Top-importance United States Presidents articles to Category:Top-importance presidents of the United States articles
- Category:NA-Class United States Presidents pages to Category:NA-Class presidents of the United States pages
- Comment: Is there a good reason that "Class" is capitalized after the hyphen? I would expect these to be NA-class..., Project-class..., etc. —ADavidB 01:49, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- Good question! If it were up to me, I'd change that too. But as you can see at Category:Articles by quality, all quality assessment classes use a capital C. By my count, there are over 30,000 subcategories that would need to be moved. Realistically, something on that scale could only be done through a long-term collaborative project or task force. Woko Sapien (talk) 14:35, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose as this isn't C2D. The current style follows how we title project pages so this isn't C2B either. This has nothing to do with MOS:JOBTITLES. Gonnym (talk) 17:28, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- Also, to any admins here, please be aware of such nominations as they are never valid for speedy if they change the style of these pages (basically, anything that isn't a real C2D can't be speedy). Gonnym (talk) 17:31, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- Except it is C2D, consistency with main article's name which was changed earlier this year from WikiProject United States Presidents to WikiProject Presidents of the United States. I'm fine with dropping the MOS:JOBTITLES argument if people feel that strongly about it. But updating the project categories to follow suit should not be controversial. Woko Sapien (talk) 17:51, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- The "main article" in this case is Wikipedia:WikiProject Presidents of the United States, not List of presidents of the United States or something else that has it downcased. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:46, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- Except it is C2D, consistency with main article's name which was changed earlier this year from WikiProject United States Presidents to WikiProject Presidents of the United States. I'm fine with dropping the MOS:JOBTITLES argument if people feel that strongly about it. But updating the project categories to follow suit should not be controversial. Woko Sapien (talk) 17:51, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- Also, to any admins here, please be aware of such nominations as they are never valid for speedy if they change the style of these pages (basically, anything that isn't a real C2D can't be speedy). Gonnym (talk) 17:31, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose as this isn't C2D. The current style follows how we title project pages so this isn't C2B either. This has nothing to do with MOS:JOBTITLES. Gonnym (talk) 17:28, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- Nomination withdrawn: I said from the start that the main focus was the recently changed Wikipedia:WikiProject Presidents of the United States and that this would bring these project categories into alignment with that (with MOS:JOBTITLE being a potential option while we're at it). Anyway, I'm giving up on this one. I don't have the energy to re-tag everything and litigate this any further in a full discussion. Woko Sapien (talk) 17:56, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- If you are willing to nominate them for the full discussion I can retag. Ymblanter (talk) 20:10, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- That's very kind of you! But considering that two editors have already opposed this (with Gonnym going so far as to accuse me of violating the speedy rules), this might be approaching WP:SNOWBALL territory. Like I've said, I think both are missing the point of my proposal, but that just isn't something I feel like re-litigating right now. Woko Sapien (talk) 20:57, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- My issue was not with any change in the project name itself, but with the change of the style as the automatic system expects titles in a specific order and style. If the only issue is changing from Category:NA-Class United States Presidents pages to Category:NA-Class United States presidents pages that isn't a problem. Gonnym (talk) 07:16, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- That's very kind of you! But considering that two editors have already opposed this (with Gonnym going so far as to accuse me of violating the speedy rules), this might be approaching WP:SNOWBALL territory. Like I've said, I think both are missing the point of my proposal, but that just isn't something I feel like re-litigating right now. Woko Sapien (talk) 20:57, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- If you are willing to nominate them for the full discussion I can retag. Ymblanter (talk) 20:10, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Project-Class United States Presidents pages to Category:Project-Class presidents of the United States pages
- Category:Stub-Class United States Presidents articles to Category:Stub-Class presidents of the United States articles
- Category:Category-Class United States Presidents pages to Category:Category-Class presidents of the United States pages
- Category:GA-Class United States Presidents articles to Category:GA-Class presidents of the United States articles
- Category:Redirect-Class United States Presidents pages to Category:Redirect-Class presidents of the United States pages
- Category:Start-Class United States Presidents articles to Category:Start-Class presidents of the United States articles
- Category:FA-Class United States Presidents articles to Category:FA-Class presidents of the United States articles
- Category:File-Class United States Presidents pages to Category:File-Class presidents of the United States pages
- Category:FL-Class United States Presidents articles to Category:FL-Class presidents of the United States articles
- Category:List-Class United States Presidents articles to Category:List-Class presidents of the United States articles
- Category:B-Class United States Presidents articles to Category:B-Class presidents of the United States articles
- Category:Portal-Class United States Presidents pages to Category:Portal-Class presidents of the United States pages
- Category:FM-Class United States Presidents pages to Category:FM-Class presidents of the United States pages
- Category:Unassessed United States Presidents articles to Category:Unassessed presidents of the United States articles
- Category:Disambig-Class United States Presidents pages to Category:Disambig-Class presidents of the United States pages
- Category:Template-Class United States Presidents pages to Category:Template-Class presidents of the United States pages
- Category:Draft-Class United States Presidents pages to Category:Draft-Class presidents of the United States pages
- Category:C-Class United States Presidents articles to Category:C-Class presidents of the United States articles
- Category:A-Class United States Presidents articles to Category:A-Class presidents of the United States articles
- Category:Unknown-importance United States Presidents articles to Category:Unknown-importance presidents of the United States articles
- Category:NA-importance United States Presidents pages to Category:NA-importance presidents of the United States pages
- Category:United States Presidents articles by quality to Category:Presidents of the United States articles by quality
- Category:United States Presidents articles needing expert attention to Category:Presidents of the United States articles needing expert attention
- Category:United States Presidents articles by importance to Category:Presidents of the United States articles by importance
- Category:United States Presidents articles needing infoboxes to Category:Presidents of the United States articles needing infoboxes
- Category:United States Presidents articles needing attention to Category:Presidents of the United States articles needing attention
- Category:Unreferenced United States Presidents articles to Category:Unreferenced presidents of the United States articles
- Category:United States Presidents articles with to-do lists to Category:Presidents of the United States articles with to-do lists
- @Gonnym and Hey man im josh: are you only opposing the p or are you also opposing "Presidents of the United States" as a whole? (And if the latter, why?) Nominator already said they are also ok with capital P. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:46, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle: I just want it to match the name of the WikiProject. No rephrasing or changing of capitalization, at least if we want to go the speedy renaming route. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:41, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Hey man im josh: renaming such that it matches Wikipedia:WikiProject Presidents of the United States is exactly what nominator has been trying to achieve. So apart from the capital p issue (which has been resolved) there should be no reason for User:Gonnym and yourself to oppose. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:41, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle: I just want it to match the name of the WikiProject. No rephrasing or changing of capitalization, at least if we want to go the speedy renaming route. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:41, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Places in mythology to Category:Locations in mythology – C2C: the subcategories are all called "locations". Marcocapelle (talk) 06:03, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose the parents though are called "Places" and in fact so is one of the subcategories and some of the grandchild categories under Hindu mythology. Jahaza (talk) 18:40, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
On hold pending other discussion
- Category:Dramatiska Institutet alumni to Category:Swedish Institute of Dramatic Art alumni – C2D: Swedish Institute of Dramatic Art Kaffet i halsen (talk) 07:53, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Kaffet i halsen:, I think Dramatiska Institutet is probably the common name, see Talk:Swedish Institute of Dramatic Art#Article name. TSventon (talk) 10:21, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
- Let's hold this the article name is decided. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 06:33, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Kaffet i halsen:, I think Dramatiska Institutet is probably the common name, see Talk:Swedish Institute of Dramatic Art#Article name. TSventon (talk) 10:21, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Songs by KAJ to Category:KAJ songs – C2C. See Category:Songs by artist. 78.82.201.71 (talk) 20:40, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
- This may be eligible for speedy per C2C, but since there is a current RM for the article, there's a good chance this should end up being Category:KAJ (group) songs. So I oppose per C2D as there is "ongoing discussion about the name of the page". Best to wait out the discussion. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 21:48, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
Moved to full discussion
- Category:Telenovelas about spiritism to Category:Telenovelas about Spiritism – C2C within Category:Spiritism – Fayenatic London 09:16, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose. Category:Spiritism is only capitalized because it's the beginning of the category name. The name "spiritism" itself is not proper. See the name of the article Kardecist spiritism for example. Jahaza (talk) 16:13, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Fayenatic london and Jahaza: shouldn't it become Category:Kardecist spiritism as a matter of C2D? Marcocapelle (talk) 20:51, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
- Since this is opposed, a full discussion is needed along with Category:Spiritism and Category:Films about Spiritism. – Fayenatic London 21:43, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
- Now at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2025_May_8#Category:Spiritism. – Fayenatic London 13:44, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Fayenatic london and Jahaza: shouldn't it become Category:Kardecist spiritism as a matter of C2D? Marcocapelle (talk) 20:51, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose. Category:Spiritism is only capitalized because it's the beginning of the category name. The name "spiritism" itself is not proper. See the name of the article Kardecist spiritism for example. Jahaza (talk) 16:13, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Oregon Superintendents for Indian Affairs to Category:Oregon superintendents for Indian affairs – C2B, per MOS:JOBTITLES. Woko Sapien (talk) 21:16, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose Invalid rationale. The MOS prohibits its use outside the article space. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:49, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
- Moved to full--Woko Sapien (talk) 21:46, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Nazarene General Superintendents to Category:Nazarene general superintendents – C2B, per MOS:JOBTITLES. Woko Sapien (talk) 21:06, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose Invalid rationale. The MOS prohibits its use outside the article space. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:49, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
- Moved to full--Woko Sapien (talk) 21:46, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- Category:General Superintendents of the Chicago Police Department to Category:General superintendents of the Chicago Police Department – C2B, per MOS:JOBTITLES. Woko Sapien (talk) 21:21, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose Invalid rationale. The MOS prohibits its use outside the article space. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:49, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Psychedelics, dissociatives and deliriants to Category:Hallucinogens – Reason: WP:C2D -- consistency with cat main article name of hallucinogen. Also "hallucinogen" is a well-established term yet the current category name is just a list of three subtypes of hallucinogens for some reason, with notably not all hallucinogens falling into those three groups. Thanks. AlyInWikiWonderland (talk, contribs) 04:01, 26 April 2025 (UTC)
- It has been deleted as a result of CfD, though a long time ago, and therefore can not be speedily processed. You can directly transfer this nomination to full CfD.--Ymblanter (talk) 05:39, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
- The user has been indefblocked, so it probably is not going to happen. Ymblanter (talk) 19:27, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Ymblanter. It was a temporary self-requested block. I ended up changing my mind on it though. Will pursue full CfD for the category move. Thanks. – AlyInWikiWonderland (talk, contribs) 23:53, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- Have pursued full CfD here. Thanks. – AlyInWikiWonderland (talk, contribs) 00:10, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Ymblanter. It was a temporary self-requested block. I ended up changing my mind on it though. Will pursue full CfD for the category move. Thanks. – AlyInWikiWonderland (talk, contribs) 23:53, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- The user has been indefblocked, so it probably is not going to happen. Ymblanter (talk) 19:27, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
- It has been deleted as a result of CfD, though a long time ago, and therefore can not be speedily processed. You can directly transfer this nomination to full CfD.--Ymblanter (talk) 05:39, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
Ready for deletion
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